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To: dangus
As for the potato chip comment, you should hang your head in shame. It is one fourth of a round, unleavened communion wafer, as is the Latin tradition since at least the 3rd century

That is debatable. I have seen Catholic videos which call it a chip. I have seen priests holding cookies instead of hosts.

I recommend this video made by Catholics about the Mass and maybe then you will understand why we Orthodox really want to have nothing to do with a church capable of such heresy until and when we can have some guarantees that this will not repeat itself.

Your Church is a Church that broke not only the prohibition of the Councils of the undivided Church not to make changed to conciliar proclamations, but also of your own sacred Council as well.

I think the only ones who should hang their head in shame are on your side of the divide. Enjoy the show.

WHAT ALL CATHOLICS SHOULD KNOW

And a longer version.

196 posted on 12/12/2008 8:55:09 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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204 posted on 12/12/2008 10:34:22 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

>> I have seen priests holding cookies instead of hosts. <<

I call BS. Given the way images of liturgical abuses get traded around like baseball cards, there’s no way on Earth that wouldn’t become instant legend.

I could imagine there’s a picture of a priest holding a cookie. Who doesn’t eat cookies. I could imagine there’s even one being held as if it were a host: sometimes a priest might demonstrate deliberately with something that couldn’t possible be confused with the real thing, no matter how ignorant Americans are. But I call BS on the claim that a cookie was ever used in a mass.

>> I have seen Catholic videos which call it a chip. <<

That’s quite a backpedal, going from “potato chip” to “chip.” “Chip” is describing its physical properties, noting that it need not be whole. “Potato chip” specifically makes an explicit denotation of a thoroughly profane substance (using profane in the classic sense), with connotations of slovenliness, gluttony, etc.

And that video is beneath contempt, mixing actual outrages which wild, unfounded assertions. If that’s where you are getting your information, forget it.


243 posted on 12/12/2008 11:02:41 PM PST by dangus
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To: kosta50

From the same source you reference approvingly:

John Paul II preached Antichrist: that every man is God 1of9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls-X5BEKTSw&feature=related

This video starts with images of inverted crucifices in context of the Pope, suggesting that the Pope is the anti-Christ. Of course, I presume you know that inverted cross is a symbol of St. Peter.


246 posted on 12/12/2008 11:13:39 PM PST by dangus
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