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To: guitarplayer1953
Ok what were they doing acts 2:46 when they were meeting and daily breaking bread? Was this not taking as you say communion?

No, they were doing a ceremony in memory of Christ. Communion is much more than breaking bread and sipping wine. There was no liturgy or established prayers or typikons for consecration. All this come later, much later.

In your opinion when did they start having a formal meeting and had communion?

We don't know. Somewhere between the Corinthians (c. 50 AD) and the end of the the century. Roman records show that in the early 2nd century they were separate, and they persisted as separate all the way up to the 4th century (because St. Augustine speaks disapprovingly of the agape meal as something separate from the communion).

Since the communion I see in the bible is a time of refection on what Christ has done using the bread and wine like the last supper as a celebration and a time of refection

That's not what the Church says communion is. The Church says the bread and wine become the body and blood of Christ, literally speaking, by the Holy Spirit at the consecration in the divine service performed by the priest. Nothing like that was taking place when the Corinthians were written.  


439 posted on 12/28/2008 1:32:58 PM PST by kosta50
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To: kosta50
So when did the bread and wine magically turn into the body and blood? Because they did not look at it that way in the 1st century. Who brought up acts? You did, I did not say that acts was taking communion as you said I did. But in first Corinthians the two are tied together in Lk Jesus said Luke 22:19 19 And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me." (NKJ)

The 1st century church did not look at in the way that it has been perverted today. They did not see it turn into a host.

PS as far as acts is concerned they were doing a Jesus said do this in remembrance of Me. They were meeting daily celebrating and breaking bread remembering what Jesus had done for them.

460 posted on 12/28/2008 10:42:37 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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