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Genesis: The Missing Piece of the Puzzle
CMI ^ | January 6, 2009 | Calvin Smith

Posted on 1/7/2009, 4:55:01 PM by GodGunsGuts

Genesis: The Missing Piece of the Puzzle

by Calvin Smith

Published: 6 January 2009

Most church leaders would agree that the western world is becoming ‘less Christian’ every year.

Worldviews

Nations once built upon biblical foundations are watching the collapse of godly values in our culture and Christians seem powerless to stop it. Competing worldviews like atheism, humanism, communism, new age, and the occult are being vigorously promoted in education, the media and one-on-one to children and adults alike.

But before we look at our own foundations, let’s look at those of the polar opposite of the Christian worldview—atheism. A-theism, by definition, states foundationally that there is ‘no God’. All worldviews provide answers to the big questions in life like ‘Where do we come from?’ How do atheists explain our origins without God?...

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TOPICS: Religion & Culture; Religion & Science; Skeptics/Seekers; Theology
KEYWORDS: abortion; corruption; creation; evolution; genesis; homosexualagenda; intelligentdesign; moralabsolutes; prolife; scotus
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To: 1000 silverlings
Slavery was also just another term for work.

The OT specifically refers to the slave as property, and says that a slaveowner who beats his slave to death has been punished enough, because he loses his property. (Assuming the slave doesn't die on the same day as the beating.)

141 posted on 1/8/2009, 8:01:31 AM by js1138
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To: metmom; editor-surveyor; All

Revelation 18 condemns slavery and in destroying Mystery Babylon, God will destroy all those who made merchandise and profit from the souls of men


142 posted on 1/8/2009, 8:10:59 AM by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; metmom
If I remember correctly the people who drafted the Magna Carta were Christians.

But...As metmom points out, once the printing press made the bible available to all, that is when we see very rapid advances in freedom.

143 posted on 1/8/2009, 9:17:02 AM by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime
But...As metmom points out, once the printing press made the bible available to all, that is when we see very rapid advances in freedom.

Any thought that it could be the other works besides the bible that made the difference?

The bible had been available directly or indirectly for centuries. Perhaps the other works were the breath of fresh air that helped break the domination by the Church?

144 posted on 1/8/2009, 10:41:28 AM by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: wintertime

Sorry ... been away from the computer for a while — but I also started college at 12 and graduated at 17. I also believe in God!

Great post! Sums up my feelings perfectly.


145 posted on 1/8/2009, 2:43:11 PM by rom (Obama '12 slogan: Let's keep on hopin'!)
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To: 1000 silverlings

I read Rev. 18 in its entirety and can find nothing condemning slavery. Which verse are you referring to?


146 posted on 1/8/2009, 3:17:48 PM by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

The really interesting question is not whether the Bible contains some obscure or implied condemnation of slavery, but why no one noticed it for 1850 years.

It strikes me as rather a more significant moral principle than whether women wear hats in church.


147 posted on 1/8/2009, 3:28:50 PM by js1138
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To: rom
Good for you!

Were you homeschooled?

148 posted on 1/8/2009, 3:29:42 PM by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime

Nope, but I always had supplementary education from my parents. They got me into the Early Entrance Program at CSULA and off I went at 12. Knew of two children in there at the age of 10.


149 posted on 1/8/2009, 3:56:27 PM by rom (Obama '12 slogan: Let's keep on hopin'!)
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To: Coyoteman
Of course other writings made a difference. I am only speculating but the Great Philosophers of the Christian, Roman, and Greek world were eventually made available.

The fundamental and **revolutionary** idea in the bible is that we are equal before God. You claim that the bible doesn't specifically condemn slavery, well it doesn't condemn littering, or pollution either, or a thousand other injustices either.

The broad concept of being equal in the eyes of God, together with the 2 Great Commandments ( loving God and neighbor as one’s self), eventually leads to a just society.

150 posted on 1/8/2009, 4:25:26 PM by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Coyoteman

Shame on you for thinking slavery is a more serious moral issue than littering.


151 posted on 1/8/2009, 4:30:07 PM by js1138
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To: wintertime
If I remember correctly the people who drafted the Magna Carta were Christians.

Well, yeah. So were the king whose power it limited and the people in all the other countries of Europe that didn't come up with a similar document. That doesn't really demonstrate anything.

152 posted on 1/8/2009, 4:32:51 PM by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: tpanther

That’s probably true, and that’s one of the reasons I believe as I do and don’t worry about others’ beliefs. I figure God made each of us the way He wanted.


153 posted on 1/8/2009, 4:37:09 PM by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: wintertime
You claim that the bible doesn't specifically condemn slavery, well it doesn't condemn littering, or pollution either, or a thousand other injustices either.

But it does condemn men who cover their heads during prayer and stipulates women who don't cover their heads during prayer should have their hair cut off.

First of all, why regulate something so pedestrian and be silent one of mankind's most grave injustices? Secondly, why does most of modern Christiandom not enforce these biblical hairstyling rules? The Bible seems pretty clear on it, but it seems to be ignored by every Christian I know.

154 posted on 1/8/2009, 4:38:18 PM by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

First of all, why regulate something so pedestrian and be silent one of mankind’s most grave injustices?
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Well....We’ll just have to ask God.

Hopefully we will both love God and our neighbor as ourselves and we will both see each other in heaven. :-)


155 posted on 1/8/2009, 5:06:28 PM by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: GunRunner

LOL....so I show you you were wrong and this means I’m making your point for you...????

ummm...

OK.

GOOD LUCK!


156 posted on 1/8/2009, 7:39:02 PM by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
LOL....so I show you you were wrong and this means I’m making your point for you...?????

Yes, you made my point for me. You admitted that nations with institutionalized slavery fell:

Wrong...civilizations have come and gone with slavery. Slavery doesn't doom a society to fall. As a matter of fact, far more civilizations have come and gone in the era of slavery than not.

Gone is the operative word. Got it?

157 posted on 1/8/2009, 7:47:10 PM by GunRunner
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To: 1000 silverlings; metmom; js1138
"Revelation 18 condemns slavery and in destroying Mystery Babylon, God will destroy all those who made merchandise and profit from the souls of men"

Yes, but that is not the open and obvious kind of slavery; it's the hidden, structural, institutionalized kind of slavery to which the masses are subjected. Apples and Oranges WRT this discussion.

158 posted on 1/8/2009, 7:48:21 PM by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks allot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: GunRunner

I’ve “looked it up” but you would be better served to look into study of scripture yourself, because it’s painfully apparent you know not of what you speak.


159 posted on 1/8/2009, 7:50:58 PM by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: js1138

Where did she get it?


160 posted on 1/8/2009, 7:51:32 PM by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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