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Who is that Man of Sin to be revealed, the Son of Perdition...
Self | Jan 12th, 2009 | TARAP

Posted on 01/12/2009 1:44:39 PM PST by TaraP

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To: PleaseNoMore

Scripture has many funny parts . . .

However, in that post it was the absurd inferences that were so funny.


61 posted on 01/13/2009 9:28:45 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: PleaseNoMore

I’m not sure some folks could

recognize a “clearly stated”

if it bit them where there’s lots to bite.


62 posted on 01/13/2009 9:29:18 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Just mythoughts

I didn’t know he did that.

HOrrific.

Thanks.


63 posted on 01/13/2009 9:30:02 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Dedicated to Lucifer, the first great community activist, according to the twisted mind of Saul Alinsky whom Obama and the rodham rodent admire.


64 posted on 01/13/2009 9:34:09 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Ezekiel
For The Son Of Man Will Come Like The Lightning

Luke 10:18 (King James Version)

And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

65 posted on 01/13/2009 9:40:59 PM PST by null and void (Hey 0bama, now that you've caught the car, what are you going to do with it, hmmm?)
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To: MHGinTN

Welllllllllllll, I’ve said for years,

he was their boss.

Didn’t realize they were so overt about it.


66 posted on 01/13/2009 10:08:08 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
http://www.tysknews.com/Articles/dnc_corruption.htm

"Rules for Radicals" begins with an unusual tribute: "From all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins – or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom – Lucifer."

Note that if someone has his own 'kingdom', doesn't that make this entity a 'king' in these followers minds?

67 posted on 01/14/2009 3:36:26 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: HKMk23; Former Fetus; Quix
Psa 27:5 "For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock."

"Understand that, if St. Paul thought eschatology critical enough..."

He wasn't the only one...

"We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts" (2nd Peter 1:19)

Jhn 13:19 "Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am [he]."

Jhn 6:29 "Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."

1st John 3:23 "And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment"

1st John 5:13 "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God."

Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.

God help us all.

68 posted on 01/14/2009 4:24:21 AM PST by mitch5501 (Yeah,but is it shatterproof?)
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To: mitch5501

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

The naysayers are going to be left with some very unpleasant chaff ashes to spit out.


69 posted on 01/14/2009 7:13:04 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Just mythoughts

Oh, I had read that.

True. True.

Thx.


70 posted on 01/14/2009 7:13:41 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54
There is nothing in Revelations about comfort the epistles to the Thessalonians was for comfort, Revelations is simply what its name implies;

Revelations 1:1
"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass"

Not things that happened in the past. Also the copy I have from Josephus says 'THE STONE COMETH' and is more likely the correct one. Not because it fits my story but that it simply makes sense and is more plausible.

JB
71 posted on 01/14/2009 10:45:37 AM PST by thatjoeguy (Just my thoughts)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

“Christians expecting to be “raptured” may not be prepared for whatever is coming, sort of in like lacking oil for their lamps.”

Thanks, That’s a perfect analogy and one that we were even warned of by Jesus.

Oh, interesting history in the family there.
JB


72 posted on 01/14/2009 10:48:32 AM PST by thatjoeguy (Just my thoughts)
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To: thatjoeguy
There is nothing in Revelations about comfort the epistles to the Thessalonians was for comfort, Revelations is simply what its name implies;

I’m not sure what version you are reading, but I find all sorts of comforting words from Jesus in the book:

I, John, both your brother and companion in the tribulation and kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, (1:9)

and you have persevered and have patience, and have labored for My name's sake and have not become weary. (2:3)

To him who overcomes I will give to eat from the tree of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God. (2:7)

Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life. (2:10)

To him who overcomes I will give some of the hidden manna to eat. And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written which no one knows except him who receives it." ' (2:17)

And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations—(2:26)

9 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent. Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me. To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne. (3:19-21)

"And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last." Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie. (22:12-15)

I could go on and on. The point being that Revelation is a book of comfort. God is in complete control and His children, in spite of temporal trials, will be vindicated and rewarded in the end, while the unrighteous will suffer both temporal punishment and eternal torment. As I said, these words were very appropriate for first century believers suffering at the hands of the Romans and apostate Jews.
73 posted on 01/14/2009 1:30:42 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
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To: thatjoeguy
Not things that happened in the past. Also the copy I have from Josephus says 'THE STONE COMETH' and is more likely the correct one. Not because it fits my story but that it simply makes sense and is more plausible.
J. Stuart Russell in his book The Parousia, writes: “It could not but be well known to the Jews that the great hope and faith of the Christians was the speedy coming of the Son. … St James, the brother of our Lord, publicly testified in the temple that ‘the Son of man was about to come in the clouds of heaven,’ … It seems highly probable that the Jews, in their defiant and desperate blasphemy, when they saw the white mass hurtling through the air, raised the ribald cry, ‘The Son is coming,’ in mockery of the Christian hope of the Parousia, to which they might trace a ludicrous resemblance in the strange appearance of the missile.’” ( Our Daily Thread, see also RC Sproul’s The Last Days According to Jesus)

74 posted on 01/14/2009 2:03:36 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
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To: TaraP; Bender2

Someone once accused me of being a son of perdition here on FR. I don’t think I am, but just in case I thought I should divulge that.


75 posted on 01/14/2009 2:57:37 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (Did I really just say that?)
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To: Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; ...
Re: Someone once accused me of being a son of perdition here on FR. I don’t think I am, but just in case I thought I should divulge that.

You are half right, big, as I've called you a son-of... numerous times. Especially this football season!

Yet if you are the Son of Perdition... I'll drink to that!

76 posted on 01/14/2009 3:33:34 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

Happy, Happy!


77 posted on 01/14/2009 3:49:54 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: topcat54

Ok, I guess if that’s what you want to believe who am I... :)

JB


78 posted on 01/14/2009 4:08:00 PM PST by thatjoeguy (Just my thoughts)
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To: Quix

Call it absurd all you want. 1 Thessalonians does not speak of a pre-trib rapture. At all. It is very specifically that it references the sequence of events that will occur at the Second Coming. One can search for pre trib rapture in that book all they want but it just ain’t there.


79 posted on 01/14/2009 5:38:01 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: thatjoeguy

I believe the rapture doctrine is one of the most dangerous doctrines ever taught in that it causes Christians to be nonchalant, and unprepared for the things coming on this earth. Instead, they are expecting to mysteriously vanish and suffer nothing when the bible is explicit that Christians will see suffering, and even clearer that those who endure until the end shall be saved.


80 posted on 01/14/2009 5:43:38 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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