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To: Lee N. Field

“I find dispensationalism “ungospelish” in it’s assumptions and implications,”

Having briefly read your backup, I think you are shooting at straw men. Dispensationalism does not require the idea that there are two concurrent methods of salvation.

Foe what other reasons do you find it “ungospelish”?


105 posted on 02/23/2009 12:56:49 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Having briefly read your backup, I think you are shooting at straw men. Dispensationalism does not require the idea that there are two concurrent methods of salvation.

Yes, I was bitten by a dispensationalist as a child. That explains it.

The two peoples of God scheme is definitional and axiomatic for dispensationalism. When you have two peoples of God, with distinctly different benefits, and different destinies, I'd say you have two gospels.

They're not always consistent in this, which is a good thing.

If you followed down the links in my FR personal page, you'd have come to this, whose outline I sketched in. The whole thing is worth a read. Granted, they're dealing with the situation 60-ish years ago, when also O. T. Allis was writing. Nevertheless, I can tell you that that old classic dispensationalism is alive and well out in the churches.

2. Dispensationalism, magnifying the distinction which is made between law and grace (which dispensationalists hold to be mutually exclusive—Chafer, Grace, p. 231 ff.), agrees that men are NOW saved by grace through faith, but teaches that in other dispensations men have been saved by “legal obedience.” “The point of testing is no longer legal obedience as the condition of salvation, but acceptance or rejection of Christ . . .“ (Scofield Reference Bible, p. 1115; also see Chafer, Dispensationalism, pp. 415-16; Grace, pp. 123, 124-126.) It also holds that after the present age of grace, there will be a reversion in the kingdom age to an extreme system of meritorious obligation. (Chafer, Dispensationalism, pp. 416, 440, 441, 443; Grace, p. 223.)

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Dispensationalism teaches that the two groups of God’s people, the Jewish Nation and the Christian Church, are entirely distinct bodies, and in the millennial kingdom will enjoy different blessings, the Jews enjoying earthly and material blessings, and the Church spiritual and heavenly blessings. Some Dispensationalists, like Dr. Chafer, continue this distinction in destiny into eternity, holding that in eternity there are three groups: the lost in hell, the earthly people of God on earth forever, and the Church, the heavenly people of God in heaven forever. (Dispensationalism, p. 448.) (I have heard this, with my own ears, from a dispensationalist teacher: The Jews are "an eternal earthly reproductive people of God.")

Read the whole thing -- recommended.

112 posted on 02/23/2009 5:01:05 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("How can there be peace when the sorceries and whordoms of your mother TBN are so many?")
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