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To: Earthdweller; fr_freak
OK...I'll answer my own question. "Why don't some people write to the Pope and have the word Catholic removed from ND and start a new Catholic University?"

I can hear it now...ND is a tradition..handed down from such and such century...blah blah blah. Yep, I know all about it.

My grandparents, great grandparents and so on and so forth all the way back to Holy Island in Ireland could give you the answer to that one.

You really have no real say. My grandparents were faithful Catholics until the day they died and they never had a say in anything that happened in their own church.

All we ever got from the Pope for centuries of devotion was a signed picture acknowledgement for a fiftieth wedding anniversary like he was some far away untouchable celebrity like Elvis.

Yep...I know.

84 posted on 04/04/2009 10:01:57 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Earthdweller

ND is a tradition, in football anyway, and in some ways the education. It’s a prestigious University. And at one time, it was great and a school we’d be proud to send our kids to.

I know my Dad (God rest his soul) was a die hard ND football fan, even when they played Penn State, my and another brother’s alma mater. We knew he secretly cheered for ND, lol. So I completely agree with you about ND.

But I disagree with the rest of your post. We do have a say in our Church and it’s important for us to alert or comment when things aren’t going well, or rather when the Catholic Church, its teachings, the Catechism, aren’t being followed. And it’s not being followed at ND or St. Joe’s and probably other colleges and certainly some Catholic high schools. It’s up to me/us to fight it. However, I’m pretty sure that ND is mostly secular now and I hope anyone will correct me if I’m wrong on that.


128 posted on 04/05/2009 2:16:01 AM PDT by Twink
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To: Earthdweller
All we ever got from the Pope for centuries of devotion was a signed picture acknowledgement for a fiftieth wedding anniversary like he was some far away untouchable celebrity like Elvis.

I don't understand this entire line of thinking. Exactly what is it that you think you should be getting? Gifts? Sundays in the park? The Pope is a spiritual leader, not God Himself. He can't possibly give personal attention to every parishioner in the world. If you need that kind of hand-holding, there's always the local clergy.
170 posted on 04/05/2009 10:51:31 AM PDT by fr_freak
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