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To: Marie2
But these “Catholics” like the open “Catholics for Free Choice,” should not be allowed communion.

Participating in the sin of abortion results in automatic excommunication.

Frances Kissling, who runs "Catholics [sic] for a Free Choice [sic]," ran a chain of abortion clinics and has thereby been excommunicated countless times.

Incidentally, her organization is basically an office with a fax machine and an expense account paid for by the Ford Foundation, the Packard Foundation (of Hewlett-Packard), and similar organizations. The organization exists to defame and oppose the Catholic Church, in order to further Kissling's program of killing innocent kids. A more accurate name for it would be "A Few Anti-Catholics for a Deadly Choice".

88 posted on 04/04/2009 10:20:48 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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"The organization exists to defame and oppose the Catholic Church, in order to further Kissling's program of killing innocent kids.

Actually, like all other commie operations run by these leftist, they exists, not to just discredit the Catholic Church or even to continue the sin of abortion, but to completely destroy the Church in it's entirety along with any other faith organization that threatens complete rule by the state.

89 posted on 04/04/2009 10:26:21 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Campion

“Frances Kissling, who runs “Catholics [sic] for a Free Choice [sic],” ran a chain of abortion clinics and has thereby been excommunicated countless times.”

She has been excommunicated in theory, or in practice she is actually refused communion? Cause Pelosi et al get their elements.


92 posted on 04/04/2009 10:49:53 PM PDT by Marie2 (The capacity for self-government is a moral quality. Only a moral people can be free.)
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To: Campion

From another FR thread today, illustrating my point:

“Ignoring the controversy surrounding Notre Dame’s honoring of pro-abortion Barack Obama as its commencement speaker, Saint Joseph’s University has followed suit. It will grant an honorary degree to broadcast journalist Chris Matthews at the university’s 2009 commencement ceremonies.

Despite Mr. Matthew’s Catholic education, having graduated from the College of the Holy Cross, he is widely regarded as a strong supporter of abortion rights, and was unabashed in his admiration of Mr. Obama’s positions.

Support for abortion is antithetical to the Church’s teachings.

The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops opposes the practice of hosting speakers who are outspoken against Catholic doctrine.

“The Catholic community and Catholic institutions should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles,” said the bishop’s conference in a statement. “They should not be given awards, honors or platforms which would suggest support for their actions.”

Calls to Saint Joseph’s President Fr. Timothy Lannon went unreturned.”

If it’s not going to follow Catholic teachings, it should no longer be called a Catholic college. It seems like the Bishops or those in charge want to keep that Catholic name on there, but don’t want to enforce adherence to Catholic doctrine.

Then it becomes meaningless, and everybody sort of does whatever they want.


93 posted on 04/04/2009 10:58:23 PM PDT by Marie2 (The capacity for self-government is a moral quality. Only a moral people can be free.)
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To: Campion

Excellent and informative post. Thanks for posting this.


131 posted on 04/05/2009 2:20:49 AM PDT by Twink
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