Posted on 04/15/2009 3:48:45 PM PDT by 4lifeandliberty
Christian Ministry Denounced As Terrorist Group by Government
Don't think that this is a hoax. Active Christians need to be aware that they are being named by the Federal Government as being potential domestic terrorists.
How do I know this?
Life and Liberty Ministries (the Evangelistic Outreach Ministry that I direct) has been specifically named by Homeland Security as being a terrorist threat in the recently released "2009 Virginia Terrorism Threat Assessment", produced by the Virginia Fusion Center.
The Gospel and pro-life messages are perceived as dangerous to a government that hates and opposes Biblical Truth. We live in a day when you must be sure to seek out the truth before you quickly believe statements being made against fellow Christians. Lies about our Ministry are being spread through the government report and we have been characterized as being something that we are not. This is a similar tactic that is used against faithful Christians in Socialist nations were they have be slandered and labeled as criminals in an attempt to silence them.
What will be LLM's response? We will continue to uncompromisingly stand for and spread YHWH's truth.
Let hell and her minions rage.
Isaiah stated in Is. 58:1, "Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and show my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins."
Ezekiel 22:2 states, "Now, thou son of man, wilt thou judge, wilt thou judge the bloody city? yea, thou shalt shew her all her abominations."
http://www.lifeandlibertyministries.com
There’s also a whole lot of paranoia and — along with that — the “whipping up the troops” without any regard to facts. These days a lot of “political preference” passes for “fact” — it seems.
I want to know the exact facts, the exact circumstances and all the “ins and out” of the situation (whatever it is).
There’s way too much paranoia and way too much “hyperbole” and heated opinion. I’m not going to want to based any of my evaluations on something on the basis of someone else’s whipped up paranoia and hyperbole and heated opinions...
Even the *very same facts* can be viewed several *different ways* depending on a person’s preference on seeing it a certain way...
A simple search:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-US&q=2009+Virginia+Terrorism+Threat+Assessment&btnG=Search
Reveals:
http://file.sunshinepress.org:54445/virgina-threat-assessment-2009.pdf
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/2009_Virginia_Terrorism_Threat_Assessment,_Mar_2009
2009 VIRGINIA TERRORISM
THREAT ASSESSMENT
COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA
DEPARTMENT OF STATE POLICE
VIRGINIA FUSION CENTER
MARCH 2009
From Page 62
There are at least two active anti-abortionist groups of interest to law enforcement headquartered
in the Commonwealth, the Army of God and Life (Chesapeake) and Life & Liberty Ministries
(Powhatan). There is no information that the latter group espouses violence; however, the group
causes disturbances and can be confrontational during their demonstrations.pp In Virginia, only a
few incidents involving anti-abortion groups have been reported. In May 2007, an incendiary device
was found outside of an abortion clinic in Virginia Beach; however, it is unknown if members of an
anti-abortion group were involved.124 The most recent reports of anti-abortion extremist presence
were noted in the Virginia Commonwealth University and the College of William & Mary, as well as
Albemarle, Manassas, Nelson, and Hanover.125 Prior anti-abortion extremist presence has been
reported in Chesapeake, Farmville, Henrico, Newport News, Norfolk, Richmond, and Virginia
Beach.126 Additionally, several Virginia residents have been reported by other states as engaging
in anti-abortionist activity.127
pp
I did the search, per post #16... that’s what I came up with...
But, since someone else has given another reference, I’ll try that one and see what I come up with...
Thanks for the reference. I’ll report back when I’ve gone over it.
I’ll review the information given and see what I come up with...
I’ll review the information on the post and get back after I’ve gone over it...
I see a quote here, but I don’t see something from you. Please post again and include something you want me to respond to...
My posts 23, 24 are cut and pasted from the document.
Lenin:
“The dictatorship is power depending directly on force, not bound by any laws. The revolutionary dictatorship of the
proletariat is power won and supported by the force of the
proletariat over the bourgeoisie, power not bound by any laws.”
Are you saying they put a Lenin quote in the document?
The quote from Lenin seemed appropriate.
It’s not up to me to prove an assertion that someone else makes on this board. I take everything here as suspect, until there is something substantial shown about it that can be verified.
At this point in time, nothing is verified yet, so all I have now, is some references that I have to go and follow up on. Until that is done — everything is suspect.
So, you can’t expect anyone to take anything you say, at face value, until it is checked out.
An example of how I would have followed through with something like that, if it were an organization that I was posting about, would have been to have included documentation in the post itself, to allow people the ability to see from a link or a scan exactly what it was that someone was asserting.
But, you didn’t — so it’s *suspect* at this point in time. I’ll let you know when I get through it all...
Ah..., I see, the quote from Lenin was your “comment”... [well.., that’s a little better as I wouldn’t expect to see a Lenin quote in a government document... LOL.. ]...
But, as I was saying before, everything is suspect, especially on new information until it’s verified. I will definitely be going through it...
I gave you a link:
http://file.sunshinepress.org:54445/virgina-threat-assessment-2009.pdf
Why don't you open the PDF and go to page 64 and see for yourself?
As I said, I will, but I’ll have to pick a particular time when I’m not also doing some other things that will distract me (which will be shortly.... in any case, maybe later on tonight).
I don’t intend to simply “glance” at the materials but spend some time on it, so you should be glad that I’ll do that... :-)
You’re overdoing it. When trying to appear as a genuine poster, you have to be more subtle.
To think the Lenin quote was in the document or that the poster was claiming they put it there requires the naivete of a 12 year old.
Stop giving yourself away. And I’ll say it again—if your supervisors are becoming angry and abusing you when this happens, you don’t have to take it. Stand up for yourself. Let me talk to them. I’ll make them feel stupid.
LOL..., I think you need to get outdoors a bit more... :-)
Hi,
We (LLM) are named on page 62 of the “2009 Virginia terrorism Assessment Report”
http://www.infowars.com/media/vafusioncenterterrorassessment.pdf
The link I have to it no longer works. I can only assume that it was taken down. It is probably out there on the web still somewhere. I haven’t searched.
I was on AFA Talk Radio today speaking about this.
Denny
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