Radio Replies Volume One: Baptists

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[GonzoII]

Baptists

309. The Baptist Church is the true Church. It really acts as did the first Christians, while the Catholic Church is not mentioned in Scripture as the true Church.

The Baptist Church is certainly not mentioned in Scripture. The Catholic Church is most clearly described there. Meantime, do Baptists act as did the first Christians? Do they go to Confession? Have they the sacrifice of the Mass? Baptists, like other Protestants, insist upon one thing not commanded by Christ, and neglect most of the things insisted upon by Him. Also, Christ said that His Church would be in the world all days from His time until the end of the world. But where was the Baptist Church before the 15th century? Christ certainly was not the Founder of the Baptist Church. It is subject to all the defects common to other forms of Protestantism.

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[Marysecretary]

Amen, DR.

[Marysecretary]

Exactly.

[Petronski]

No, they are not...

Catholics are Christians by definition. Your store-front cult's opinion on the matter is irrelevant.

[GonzoII]

“The washing away of sins”

"So there was no need for a sacrifice?"

Of course there was. The death of Christ is the cause of the sacrament of baptism. Baptism works by the saving work of Christ.

1225 In his Passover Christ opened to all men the fountain of Baptism. He had already spoken of his Passion, which he was about to suffer in Jerusalem, as a "Baptism" with which he had to be baptized.²² The blood and water that flowed from the pierced side of the crucified Jesus are types of Baptism and the Eucharist, the sacraments of new life.²³ From then on, it is possible "to be born of water and the Spirit"²⁴ in order to enter the Kingdom of God.

See where you are baptized, see where Baptism comes from, if not from the cross of Christ, from his death. There is the whole mystery: he died for you. In him you are redeemed, in him you are saved.²⁵

22 Mk 10:38; cf. Lk 12:50.
23 Cf. Jn 19:34; 1 Jn 5:6-8.
24 Cf. Jn 3:5.
25 St. Ambrose, De sacr. 2, 2, 6: PL 16, 444; cf. Jn 3:5.

Source: CCC

[Marysecretary]

Peter was a shepherd to his people. Nothing more. He was no Pope.

[Marysecretary]

Nope. It’s not biblical. But then some of these guys don’t believe in just the Bible. They like all the extra-biblical stuff that man made up.

[Marysecretary]

Sure you did.

[GonzoII]

"It seemed you were attacking the Baptist faith whose baptism is considered valid even by the Catholic Church in Vatican II.Or are you saying that Catholic baptism is superior?"

No to both.

[Marysecretary]

Do Catholics immerse? They baptize infants. Immersion was usually used by the early Christians and probably mostly adults and children old enough to know what they were doing.

[Petronski]

Sure you did.

Thanks for the confirmation.

[Petronski]

Peter was a shepherd to his people.

Pope Peter I: Quite a shepherd!

[GonzoII]

"It seemed you were attacking the Baptist faith"

I should say I wasn't agreeing with all its beliefs.

[Marysecretary]

So much nonsense. Cheez.

[Marysecretary]

They’re dead, Jim.

[Petronski]

You don’t have that kind of power.

[Marysecretary]

They’re not talking about physical death but spiritual life or death. We KNOW we will die someday physically, but in Christ we are made alive in the SPIRIT. We won’t die spiritually if we are in Him and we will reign with Him in eternity.

[Marysecretary]

I was baptized in the Episcopal Church as a month old child. But when I was baptized as an adult and immersed in a pond, I knew something had happened. I knew that satan could no longer hold my past against me. It had been cleansed by the water and the blood.

[Marysecretary]

Jimmy Carter was a BINO.

[Marysecretary]

And your Roman edifice the same.

[Marysecretary]

Oh, and I was a Baptist when I was saved. We didn’t have store fronts, LOL.