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Conservatives Who May Forfeit the Protecting Hand of God
June 2, 2009 | John Leland 1789

Posted on 06/02/2009 3:33:49 AM PDT by John Leland 1789

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1 posted on 06/02/2009 3:33:50 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

It is rather arrogant to even imply that God will remove his grace and mercy on someone because of the way you view their politics.

Trying to coerce political behavior in the name of God is one of the slimiest things so called Conservatives do.


2 posted on 06/02/2009 3:38:08 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Defending RINOs is the same as defending Liberals.)
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To: John Leland 1789

Protectionism is tyranny.

You have no right to tell me what I can and can not purchase.

Also, as corrupt and criminal as the American Labor Unions have become, we MUST have a way to avoid supporting them, even if it means, sometimes, a foreign competitor.


3 posted on 06/02/2009 3:43:06 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: John Leland 1789
It is obvious that the lust for wealth drives many so called, conservative, leaders. They've pandered to us for our votes, but now, when they think more votes will come from other sources, we are told we aren't needed, and accused of hurting the party.

My principles aren't for sale.

I look at my grandson every day, and it reminds me that my duty is now to pave his way as best I can, not to worry about my comfort. I can't leave much material wealth, best I can do is try to pass on freedom.

4 posted on 06/02/2009 3:45:29 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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You would have been a lot better of simply stating that greed (gluttony) is a sin without tying it to politics.

As far as globalists are concerned, only they can figure out where they’re loyalties lie.


5 posted on 06/02/2009 3:48:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Kansas58

God will protect the nation through our economic debates, whether we agree or not agree on the extent of “free trade”. That is my point. He has not spelled out any specific requirements with regard to an economic system or trade philosophy.

God is very interested in what we do as a nation with those things obviously stated to offend Him. Righteousness exalteth a nation but sin is a reproach to any people.

If unbridled international free trade is a correct course, principally, then fine. But it will also fail, and turn to bite us, if we don’t have God’s protecting hand on our nation.


6 posted on 06/02/2009 3:49:30 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

True and good!


7 posted on 06/02/2009 3:52:10 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

I disagree, at least in part.

Jesus certainly seemed to favor the man who would not bury his money in the ground, but instead used it to help his neighbors. I think nearly every capitalist does the country more good than ANY Communist!

Joseph proved that Tax Cuts make a country wealthy, during the Seven Fat Years.

There are many places where the Bible seems to show favoritism to the honest capitalist.


8 posted on 06/02/2009 3:53:48 AM PDT by Kansas58
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Somehow, I don't think G-d is whispering your ear about who He will protect and who will be going it alone.

Do I hear a loon?

9 posted on 06/02/2009 3:57:16 AM PDT by muir_redwoods ( Hey, remember the last head of state who dictated the design of automobiles?)
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“Jesus certainly seemed to favor the man who would not bury his money in the ground, but instead used it to help his neighbors. I think nearly every capitalist does the country more good than ANY Communist!

“Joseph proved that Tax Cuts make a country wealthy, during the Seven Fat Years.

“There are many places where the Bible seems to show favoritism to the honest capitalist.”


Every example you can find of “capitalism” in the Scriptures actually supports . . . capitalism.

Your citations do support a free enterprise system, which is certainly the correct one.

But God does not promise His protection to the system for the system itself. If capitalism is the god of a man to the exclusion to the True and Living God, and he ignores the other precepts of morality and spirituality found in the same Scriptures, He has the prerogative to remove His hand and allow its failure.

Jesus didn’t fail in any of the words of God, and Joseph loved the God of the Scriptures with all of his heart, and ran from the immorality of Potifer’s wife.

God would have no obligation to protect or use Joseph if Joseph had the same attitude toward perversion ad Mr. Cheney, regardless of Joseph’s “capitalism.”

My argument is not against Free Enterprise. My argument is for the Nation not to countence perverts who offend God, so that we will not forfeit (as a nation) the blessings upon our free enterprise, which I state in my article to be a gift from God.


10 posted on 06/02/2009 4:07:05 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: muir_redwoods

God is not wispering in my ear, nor in anyone elses. He is ROARING from the pages of the Scriptures.


11 posted on 06/02/2009 4:12:22 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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12 posted on 06/02/2009 4:14:44 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: John Leland 1789

The constitution does not give the Federal gov’t. authority to legislate any kind of social behavior. That is a matter for state legislatures entierly.

Frankly, I’d rather leave it that way than say something like: Ok Liberals, you’ve had your fun stomping all over the constitution, now we’re going to do it our way.

I see the problem as not being a lack of morals in Washington, but the very fact that it believes it can impose whatever kind of morals or lack thereof on society at will.


14 posted on 06/02/2009 4:27:10 AM PDT by dajeeps
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“The constitution does not give the Federal gov’t. authority to legislate any kind of social behavior. That is a matter for state legislatures entierly.”


Mine was not an argument against Federalism, but an argument against any level of government countenancing very obvious wickedness.

The sodomites who are allowed to “marry” in one state or another can be counted on to push their agenda by (1) trying to adopt the children they can’t produce, and then (2) moving to states that do not sanction sodomite “marriage” to create situations that will force the courts to (unconstitutionally) legislate in their favor for benefits and so forth.

The sodomites are going to keep pressing until there is no federalism. And they know exactly what they’re doing.


15 posted on 06/02/2009 4:42:37 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

This is Good Stuff!


16 posted on 06/02/2009 5:11:09 AM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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Hey RaceBannon! Yours is the first positive response. What is happening on these pages?!


17 posted on 06/02/2009 5:19:53 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789

You’re on the same list as you put Dick Cheney and others of whom you disapprove, no matter how pious you think you are. We’re all on it.


18 posted on 06/02/2009 5:23:52 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: John Leland 1789
like it or not, the American nation began with the Bible and Christianity being brought on to the shores of the continent by Protestant Christians.

I'm curious what you mean here. Surely you are aware that the Spanish and the French were evangelizing on American soil before the English/Dutch/Swedish. Heck, even the Russian Orthodox had a respectable claim to the Northwest. And the English colonies weren't even exclusively Protestant either--Maryland certainly was not.

19 posted on 06/02/2009 5:46:52 AM PDT by Claud
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Not much happening, dont know why

Many people just dont read the religion based threads.


20 posted on 06/02/2009 6:01:52 AM PDT by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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