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Mainline churches lose 3.5M since 1990, while nondenominational-Evangelicals increase by 8M!

Draw your own conclusions, folks . . .

1 posted on 06/03/2009 7:26:03 PM PDT by fgoodwin
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To: Huber; sionnsar

Please ping the Episcopal / Anglican list.

Thanx


2 posted on 06/03/2009 7:29:13 PM PDT by fgoodwin (Fundamentalist, right-wing nut and proud father of a Life Scout!)
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To: fgoodwin

United Methodists may want try something that worked 2,000 years ago. Preaching Christ crucified and spare us the causes.


3 posted on 06/03/2009 7:29:48 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: fgoodwin

I go to the local Church of God. We don’t need to advertise. The place is 3/4 full every Sunday and half full on Wednesday.


4 posted on 06/03/2009 7:30:56 PM PDT by Radl (sai)
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To: fgoodwin

Good bye, apostates!


5 posted on 06/03/2009 7:32:10 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Palin/Bachman 2012: Conservative Viagra)
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To: fgoodwin

Mainline churches lose 3.5M since 1990, while nondenominational-Evangelicals increase by 8M!
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Yep, the liberal churches are declining. The conservative ones are growing at a very rapid clip.

We recently had a baptism at our very conservative non-denom church (we hold one about every 3 months) with over 50 people baptized at the service.


6 posted on 06/03/2009 7:33:07 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: fgoodwin

The Methodist Church and the Catholic Church endorse Sanctuary for Illegal Aliens and Amnesty and preach it from the pulpit - A NO WINNER FOR MILLIONS of Americans...

Many Protestant Churches have policies of minding the personal business of church members, couple counseling, individual counseling with ‘on staff’ counselors. Men like me do not want - nor will be tolerate a church getting involved in my personal or family business... Then there is ‘politics’ - churches should stay out of politics - period...

I want to go to a church to WORSHIP GOD - and nothing else...

And - I believe millions of American men believe as I do - worship God and leave me alone.


8 posted on 06/03/2009 7:34:37 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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So they think their decline is due to their not pushing Liberalism hard enough. It’s hard to believe they could be so stupid.


9 posted on 06/03/2009 7:35:52 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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So it's pouring $20 million into a new marketing campaign, including the website, television advertisements, even street teams in some cities, to rebrand the church from stale destination to "24-7 experience."

I wonder if a "24-7 experience" of the religion they're selling at the Methodist Church is anything like the total Christian commitment Jesus had in mind. I suspect maybe not.

11 posted on 06/03/2009 7:39:19 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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This deserves a great big barf alert.

These "churches" are the churches of Jeremiah Wright and Killer Tiller.

Beware any member of the National Council of Churches. They all need to die. They are apostate. They are churches, they are left wing political organizations.

• African Methodist Episcopal Church
• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
• Alliance of Baptists
• American Baptist Churches in the USA
• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
• Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
• Christian Methodist Episcopal Church
• Church of the Brethren
• The Coptic Orthodox Church in North America
• The Episcopal Church
• Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
• Friends United Meeting
• Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
• Hungarian Reformed Church in America
• International Council of Community Churches
• Korean Presbyterian Church in America
• Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church
• Mar Thoma Church
• Moravian Church in America Northern Province and Southern Province
• National Baptist Convention of America
• National Baptist Convention, U.S.A., Inc.
• National Missionary Baptist Convention of America
• Orthodox Church in America
• Patriarchal Parishes of the Russian Orthodox Church in the USA
• Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends
• Polish National Catholic Church of America
• Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)
• Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc.
• Reformed Church in America
• Serbian Orthodox Church in the U.S.A. and Canada
• The Swedenborgian Church
• Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch
• Ukrainian Orthodox Church of America
• United Church of Christ
• The United Methodist Church •

12 posted on 06/03/2009 7:39:22 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (I)
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You can set out all the tables you want at a potluck, but if you don’t have any food to provide, people ain’t gonna come.


13 posted on 06/03/2009 7:40:09 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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One guess why the Methodist church is shrinking: let’s see, if you’re going to abandon scripture, the only thing that works is name it and claim it, blab it and grab it. People don’t want to sit around and listen to some spiritual pluralists bloviating about bio-diesel behind the pulpit.


14 posted on 06/03/2009 7:40:53 PM PDT by farmer18th (If you preach "too big to let fail," you're also preaching "too small to let succeed.")
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Over the same period, the number identifying themselves as nondenominational Christians, the evangelical-style tradition of the megachurches, has exploded, from fewer than 200,000 to more than 8 million.

Explosive growth, the ecclesiastical puffball mushroom :

Barna's polling

A red flag. For me anyway.

16 posted on 06/03/2009 7:43:30 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (2)How many things are necessary for thee to know,..? the first, how great my sins and miseries are;)
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To: fgoodwin

Agreed.


17 posted on 06/03/2009 7:45:26 PM PDT by svcw
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What if a church was gospel-based and not a left-wing political site?


20 posted on 06/03/2009 7:47:31 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: fgoodwin

PREACH THE GOSPEL, LIVE THE GOSPEL. PEOPLE WILL FLOCK TO YOUR DOORS.


26 posted on 06/03/2009 7:57:42 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: fgoodwin
Mainline churches lose 3.5M since 1990, while nondenominational-Evangelicals increase by 8M! Draw your own conclusions, folks . . .

My conclusion is that each misses the mark. The mainline churches are dying because they have swapped Jesus Christ for Marx and Rawls and similar degenerates.

The megachurches have swapped the Christian gospel for feel-good socializing and whatever sells.

Jesus Christ said it and Bonhoeffer reiterated, that the number of true Christians in the world would always be a small minority, and they could expect to be persecuted. Not much of a PR "brand" campaign is it?

But it's the truth. And this fetish with church growth and numbers reflects a typically American boomer mentality--- great for creating prosperity, for nurturing faith, not so great.

29 posted on 06/03/2009 8:00:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: fgoodwin

I joined a Methodist Church last year. I helped start a theater group there, and we put on a Christian play at Christmas that was very successful and involved the community. We packed the house for all performances after doing months of rehearsal and involving actors from kindergarteners to older adults.

A few of the liberals in the church (who cared nothing about doing theater there before) decided we had to do more issue-oriented plays. One of the woman in the church transcribed a politically correct children’s book word-for-word and called it a play. I pointed out, for starters, that wasn’t going to work on stage. Another woman said we had to do this play because it was about “tolerance.”

I said that “tolerance” was a meaningless concept. The important question was “tolerate what?” After all, we don’t want our kids tolerating genocide. I was told to shut up.

I thought the whole experience was a microcosm of why the Methodist Church is failing. We had created a meaningful religious theater group. It got trampled to death by the self-worship of liberalism.


32 posted on 06/03/2009 8:03:16 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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Churches that are preaching the Word of God, in depth, are growing. Churches that are trying to be politically correct are dying. Go figure!


33 posted on 06/03/2009 8:12:50 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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We go to a Calvary Chapel here in Nevada and our attendance is skyrocketing.


34 posted on 06/03/2009 8:13:12 PM PDT by ninergold3 ("Has it ever occurred to you that nothing occurs to God?" -Mark Lowry)
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People are flocking to our Catholic Church.

We just had to install sound and a screen in an adjoining room for overflow crowds. Maybe time to build a new Church or get an assistant and offer more Masses. Our priest is already doing four Masses every weekend.


35 posted on 06/03/2009 8:16:46 PM PDT by Salvation ( With God all things are possible.)
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