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To: Iscool
That's my point...The tradition of your religion is meaningless to me and millions of other...It flys in the face of scripture...

In your cavalier dismissal of the writings of learned and holy men, too numerous to mention, do you ever entertain the possibility that it might be you that is in error? Is there ever the germ of an idea that your own understanding of Scripture might not be complete? Might not be of a measure with Aquinas, Augustine, Dominic, Jerome or Basil?

Would you so easily dismiss the accumulated wisdom of centuries on scientific or historical issues?

Well it would had to have been 'risen' Saints that conversed with the risen Mary...You guys talk to these Saints, eh??? And then you try to convince me that your religion is right because people/spirits of the occult have confirmed it??? No thanks...Just one more reason for me to avoid your religion...Do these mystics use Tarot cards, or crystal balls as well???

Your ignorance of Scripture is frightening.

Did not Jesus take Peter, James and John with him up Tabor and converse with Moses and Elijah? The three Apostles saw both Moses and Elijah for Peter said to Jesus, "Let us make three tents......" Or was that "Tarot card" stuff as well?

The Communion of Saints is one body. Those who enjoy the beatific vision of God can and do intercede with us before God.

Answer me one question.

How can the sinful give rise to the sinless? How can sinful flesh give rise to sinless flesh?

That's your belief, right? Out of sinful human flesh came the Sinless One.

82 posted on 06/23/2009 8:53:01 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow
In your cavalier dismissal of the writings of learned and holy men, too numerous to mention, do you ever entertain the possibility that it might be you that is in error? Is there ever the germ of an idea that your own understanding of Scripture might not be complete? Might not be of a measure with Aquinas, Augustine, Dominic, Jerome or Basil?

There's a very long line of learned and holy men since the group you mention who disagree with your heroes...

God did not write the scriptures so that learned men could understand them and translate to us what He had in mind...

The scriptures were written so the the average 14 year old can read them...

The only hard part about the scriptures is BELIEVING what they say, as you guys can surely attest to...

Would you so easily dismiss the accumulated wisdom of centuries on scientific or historical issues?

You mean like the creation story in Genesis??? I immediately dismiss your religion's unbelief in the creation story and your religion's connection with Darwin...I believe what God said...And no doubt, so did many of your 'early' church fathers...

When you guys claim that God didn't mean what he says or you add and take away words from a scripture to prove what you say is true, I throw that out with the dirty bathwater...

Your ignorance of Scripture is frightening.

Did not Jesus take Peter, James and John with him up Tabor and converse with Moses and Elijah? The three Apostles saw both Moses and Elijah for Peter said to Jesus, "Let us make three tents......" Or was that "Tarot card" stuff as well?

You said these saints confirmed that Mary never had more children...Then you use Moses and Elijah to confirm this??? Really, what saints told you guys that Mary had no other children???

How can the sinful give rise to the sinless? How can sinful flesh give rise to sinless flesh? That's your belief, right? Out of sinful human flesh came the Sinless One.

Of course...Jesus endured temptation...You think you can tempt God??? God has told you otherwise...

Jesus did not just have the appearance of a human...Jesus became human...

There are many incidents in the OT where the Angel of the Lord, which is Jesus, took on the appearance of a man...In that case, what you claim about Jesus is accurate...But when Jesus actually became flesh and blood, he got all the things that come with it...

102 posted on 06/23/2009 4:59:44 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: marshmallow; Iscool
Did not Jesus take Peter, James and John with him up Tabor and converse with Moses and Elijah? The three Apostles saw both Moses and Elijah for Peter said to Jesus, "Let us make three tents......" Or was that "Tarot card" stuff as well?

Yes of course, Iscool knows all. iscool is the omniscient one
122 posted on 06/24/2009 7:26:05 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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