Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Jon and Kate Plus 8 Minus God
Catholic Exchange ^ | June 27, 2009 | Patti Maguire Armstrong

Posted on 06/27/2009 5:57:13 AM PDT by NYer

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021 next last
Patti Maguire Armstrong is the mother of ten children including two Kenyan AIDS orphans. She is a speaker and the author of Catholic Truths for Our Children: A Parent's Guide (Scepter). She is also the managing editor and co-author of Ascension Press's Amazing Grace book series. Her website is RaisingCatholicKids.com.
1 posted on 06/27/2009 5:57:14 AM PDT by NYer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
money corrupted this family. Jon and Kate can both buy whatever they want and go wherever they want now, with or without the kids. This, they do.

Mark 8:36 immediately comes to mind.

I used to watch this program, back when the two struggled against financial odds to raise their children. Once the money began rolling in, it was all downhill. The great deception has always been that money resolves all of our problems. In fact, it creates worse ones. John and Kate are just one more example.

2 posted on 06/27/2009 6:00:18 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

We just spent 3 weeks touring China,Tibet and Hong Kong.
There were 1.2 billion Chinese and 2 of us,who didn’t give a fudge about Jon and Kate!


3 posted on 06/27/2009 6:03:17 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Is this the couple the tabloids were screaming about? The magazines use first names so I have no idea who they were writing about.


4 posted on 06/27/2009 6:14:32 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Shooter 2.5

Yes .... these are the tabloid John and Kate. Sadly, there was a time when they appeared mostly on Good Housekeeping.


5 posted on 06/27/2009 6:19:52 AM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Thanks. Now I know I can ignore the magazines. I thought it was about someone I needed to know.


6 posted on 06/27/2009 6:24:01 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: NYer
Never watched the show, refuse to watch the show, even. Here's why:
gos⋅sip  /ˈgɒsəp/ [gos-uhp]
noun, verb, -siped or -sipped, -sip⋅ing or -sip⋅ping.

–noun 1. idle talk or rumor, esp. about the personal or private affairs of others: the endless gossip about Hollywood stars.
I just can't seem to find any way to get around that.
7 posted on 06/27/2009 6:27:34 AM PDT by raynearhood ("Naysayers for Jesus" - Charter Member)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
I just drove past my local Gardener White furniture store where they are interviewing today for some stupid reality show called "The Biggest Loser" I think.. Its about self absorbed FAT people who want their 15 minutes of fame by subjecting themselves to humiliation in their effort to see who can lost the most FAT during the taping of the seriesl.

You should have seen the line of FAT people outside the store...........

Once they get their local fame, I can hear the questions now: "...hey, weren't you one of those FAT people on that show last year? If I recall, you lost out early in the show didn't you? And if I didn't know better I would say it looks like you even put on a few more pounds......."

What people will do to get their faces on TV.....

8 posted on 06/27/2009 6:40:30 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun in an Indy car....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: NYer
So sad, never watched the show. This is why one of the commandments is to not covet what your neighbor has. God has warned us that even just coveting is a sin and should be confessed immediately. It is like a gateway drug/sin that leads to other larger, worse, more addictive sins.

IF - IF we confess our sin - He is faithful to forgive and cleanse us...

Constant battle between the flesh and the spirit, waging war. Have to make intentional choice/decision to feed the spirit instead of the flesh.

9 posted on 06/27/2009 7:04:12 AM PDT by Esther Ruth
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
The purple prose and torrents of words continue apace about the fractured marriage of Jon and Kate. Every detail, every facet, every statement is parsed and analyzed, questioned and agonized over.

Reality is that no matter what circumstances divided the union, the egg shell is smashed and can't and won't be put back together again. A settlement will be worked out, the kids will stay with Kate, Jon will have ample visitation rights, the TV program will continue with a new slant, "Single Mom Copes with Raising Eight Kids"........Jon, who vants to be alone like Garbo, will fade from view until he's broke and needs to be in an episode or two, and the children will NOT necessarily grow up to be drug addicts, criminals, mass murderers, fallen women or suicide cases because their parents split or because they're in show biz.

I've watched the show occasionally when I get sick of seeing Obama's mug all over the tube. It's mildly entertaining and sometimes fun. Contrary to general belief, the camera is NOT on the kids 24/7. It's turned on a limited amount of hours on week days only.

In our grandparents' days, audiences watched Eddie Foy and the Seven Little Foys.....the seven literally being born on stage and who worked the harsh vaudville circuit 25/8 long before there were child labor laws. I believe they all survived being performers and I don't remember reading they were marked for life as a result.

The Gosselin's marital status is really none of our concern....and no one is forcing anyone to watch the show. There's plenty of kith and kin and social service types who will make sure the kids are healthy and happy......and that's what matters in the long run.

Leni

10 posted on 06/27/2009 7:57:09 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Please Don't Tell Obama What Comes After a Trillion!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Everytime either one of the them said, “the children come first”, I said, “Then get your act together and be the parents that they need!”

My husband and I got married when we were 17, it was tough, we weren’t Catholic but I took my vows seriously. After the first 13 rocky years, which were extremely bad and extremely good, we finally lost the extreme and settled down to good and bad days.

People aren’t willing to work through the hard parts, they just want to give up.

I don’t know if this is true but I read on a blog once that when Kate had the sextuplets, her father’s church pitched in and made sure she had all the stuff she needed for the kids but it was all used and Kate threw a fit because she wanted all new stuff. While I thought that was immature and selfish and rude, I thought the reaction of her supposed pastor father beyond unkind, he basically disowned her and removed himself from the lives of the twins which he had helped to babysit and never got to know the 6.

I just thought that if that was true, it was very sad and really gives an insight into who Kate is, instead of fixing their relationship, it was just written off. I have 4 grandchildren and I have bent over backwards to maintain a relationship with their parents so that I get to be a part of their lives.

Everyone just wants their own way and no one is willing to give an inch to truly do what is good for the children.


11 posted on 06/27/2009 8:01:11 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

I would have to agree with you - I used to watch the show in the beginning as they struggled financially and worked together to take care of their children. I think the Maui adventure - renewing their vows - is when I woke up to how they transformed the show into one big commercial and used their children to get their trips and things for free. What really bothered me even more is the fact that Kate expected the “village” to help raise her children that she decided to have. So, for me - Jon and Kate have worn out their welcome in my home over a year ago. I catch snippets here and there, but I don’t stay very long because I see the greedy side of both parents now - Jon wanting to relive his “stolen” youth and Kate wanted to be the “diva” of mothers. I would rather watch the little people (Roloff’s), the Hayes Family and the Duggars - at least they haven’t been corrupted by greed and sense of entitlement.


12 posted on 06/27/2009 11:08:02 AM PDT by qwicwted
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Only watched Jon and Kate a few times, they both seemed very self-centered to me. Love the Duggar family, the mother on this show is the role model for self-sacrifice. The difference between the two parenting styles is truly evident, self-centered vs. God-centerd.


13 posted on 06/27/2009 11:58:29 AM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: All

Fame..few can deal with it. Pride soon follows. I see parents pushing their kids to be the best at everything. The goal to become “famous”. I throw in the comment...how many famous people do you see truely happy or look like ship wrecks in the making. Fame comes with a great responsibility. Mother Teresa was probably one of the most famous woman who ever lived.....and she did not even try.


14 posted on 06/27/2009 2:37:08 PM PDT by prayerfullywaiting
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: prayerfullywaiting
I throw in the comment...how many famous people do you see truely happy or look like ship wrecks in the making.

One need only look towards Hollyweird for the response.

15 posted on 06/27/2009 3:28:06 PM PDT by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: NYer

She’s right. One thing I’ve noticed is that all they talk about is the children and how they have to make the children happy. Don’t they realize that the children will be happy if THEY are? What’s wrong with those two? They never seem to care what the other person is feeling. It’s all me, me, me and the children. God certainly isn’t present in their TV show. Jon was busy screwing his girlfriends and didn’t pay too much attention to what his wife was doing. I hate this. They are self centered little snobs. I fear for their children.


16 posted on 06/27/2009 6:24:08 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tiki

Amen, tiki.


17 posted on 06/27/2009 6:26:59 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: NYer

I hope she does get in touch with them. I was thinking the same thing, just writing to them. It seems they have both lost their way, become enamored with the money. I really hope they can work it out without divorcing, but it doesn’t look good right now. Kate especially seems freaked out about finances, though they now are wealthier in financial terms than ever, and the unhappiness is clear on all their faces.


18 posted on 06/27/2009 8:21:42 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tiki
I don’t know if this is true but I read on a blog once that when Kate had the sextuplets, her father’s church pitched in and made sure she had all the stuff she needed for the kids but it was all used and Kate threw a fit because she wanted all new stuff. While I thought that was immature and selfish and rude, I thought the reaction of her supposed pastor father beyond unkind, he basically disowned her and removed himself from the lives of the twins which he had helped to babysit and never got to know the 6.

I had read this, too. And it doesn't help that since the show started airing, Kate has often admitted she is a control freak. Her need to control is alienating everyone around her (I'm not excusing Pastor/dad's disowning, I agree with you, clearly a negative influence on her). It doesn't help that it was decided that Jon quit his job (so she could tour and they could keep filming) further increasing her control and alienation and emasculating him. It's also no secret that he didn't want to continue with the show after the first 2 or so years, after they got out of those early baby years and became more financially stable.

It's sad to see them unravel on TV, presumably for our 'entertainment' while the show shamelessly just keeps pushing them at us, knowing it's tearing them apart.

19 posted on 06/27/2009 8:27:50 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: NYer
Have you ever met a person filled with the love of God that was unhappy? Do you know of people with lots of money who are unhappy?

Yup.

Good essay.

20 posted on 06/28/2009 4:55:19 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson