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Church of 'Holy Ghost' rocked by sex and assassination allegations
KSL.com (Salt Lake City) ^ | July 2, 2009 | John Hollenhorst

Posted on 07/03/2009 6:12:52 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: Colofornian

The hits just keep coming!


22 posted on 07/04/2009 2:57:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
A former apostle in Dalton's church, Michael Stevenson, has now unleashed a blizzard of allegations, including fondling of children and exhibitionist sex acts at church meetings.

HALLELUJAH!!!

Joseph Smith has RETURNED!!!


http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”


 
 

 
 
Praise to the Man!
 
 
Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.
 
 
 
 

Praise to his mem'ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assasins,
Plead unto heav'n while the earth lauds his fame.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

 
 
 

Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

 
 
 

Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know 'Brother Joseph' again.
 
Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with
Gods
, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

23 posted on 07/04/2009 3:03:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: counterpunch
Isn’t that a bit hard for a living guy to pull off?

Not really; considering the claims of MORMONism.

After all; who ELSE has the FATHER as having a fleshly body??

Might as well bring the OTHER god up to date and give him one too!

24 posted on 07/04/2009 3:05:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: I Hate Obama
Yeah just another cult, but even if the guy is totally insane; If they cannot prove that they committed any crimes then they should be left alone.

But law enforcement MUST check out CLAIMS of crimes.

25 posted on 07/04/2009 3:06:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
 
Where does the Mormon church-owned KSL folks get off calling a Mormon-based group a “cult?”
 
Surely you jest!

 

MORMON
ATTITUDES OF SUPERIORITY
 

  1. I’m Superior; I have a special gift of the holy Ghost -- you don’t!
  2. I’m Superior; I have God’s true priesthood power -- you don’t!
  3. I’m Superior; I can go in God’s secret Temple -- you can’t!
  4. I’m Superior; I’ve been Endowed with special Gifts and Knowledge -- you’re just normal!
  5. I’m Superior; I’ll have my family with me in heaven -- you’ll be with strangers!
  6. I’m Superior; I’m becoming a God -- you aren’t!
  7. I’m Superior; My women know their place as servants of man and yours don’t.
  8. I’m Superior; YOUR creeds are wrong because they come from man - mine comes from God (you can find each one printed in our Scriptures).
  9. I’m Superior; I don’t HAVE a creed - I’ve got 13 Articles of Faith.
10. I'm Superior; I have 4 "Bibles"-- the standard works (5 if you count the JST) -- you've only got one: in as far as it is translated correctly.
11. I’m Superior; I can lie with impunity about such things as church membership, church growth, church doctrine, church history, church influence, etc. —                           -- You can’t.
12. I’m Superior; I am right (everybody knows) when I say 'evangelical' Christians are lunatics --                            -- You’re a hideous narrow-minded bigot, who is persecuting me by practicing discrimination by saying I'm not a Christian.
13. I'm Superior; I have a testimony about a prophet -- you don't.
14. I'm Superior; I have a Scripture-producing Amos 3:7 prophet -- you don't
15. I’m Superior; I have a Living Prophet who talks to god every day -- you have a dim-witted hireling of Satan who only talks to himself.
16. I'm Superior; I have my calling & election made sure -- you don't.
17. I’m Superior; I have magic underwear to protect me from the bogey man -- you don’t.
18. I’m Superior; I have secret clasps and grips to give the angel so I get admitted to the celestial kingdom -- you don’t ;so you can’t.
19. I'm Superior; I know secret handshake codes for afterlife entrances-- you don't.
20. I’m Superior; I will see Joseph Smith setting on the right hand of GOD, when I get to Mormon heaven, and he will recognize me and judge me favorably                              -- You’re on your own; when you get to wherever you’re going!
21. I’m Superior; I’m going to hie to Kolob -- you’re going to who knows where.
22. I’m Superior; I get to have a harem and act like a celestial stud for time and all eternity -- you don’t.
23. I’m Superior; I have sun stones, moon stones, sky stones, cloud stones, Saturn stones, and the evil eye of Osirus guarding my temple                            -- all you have is a stupid cross.
24. I’m Superior; My church has billions in assets stashed away -- yours has taken a stupid vow of poverty.
25. I'm Superior; Last - we have the power to keep a whole race out of our priesthood if we wanted to reinsert our 148-year legacy  (we ARE still keeping an entire GENDER at bay!)
 
Revision 46.1
Semi-Official creed of the EXclusive club of Freeper Flying Inmans.
All rights liable to be abused.



26 posted on 07/04/2009 3:08:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
Mormonism...circa 2004-2009:

ASk ANY Mormonism follower if the CANON is complete.

To justify their Leaders continual adding to 'scripture', they say, "No; and GOD is going to say much more in the future."


The hard thing; I would think; would be to claim that GOD will ONLY speak thru those in LEADERSHIP of the SLC based group.

27 posted on 07/04/2009 3:13:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Hey!

You're BACK!


28 posted on 07/04/2009 3:16:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
I can post hundreds more.

Do you REALLY want to go here?

29 posted on 07/04/2009 3:17:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LeGrande

Once again; an avowed atheist is drawn, like a moth, to the flame of religious threads...


30 posted on 07/04/2009 3:18:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
 
Just consider yourself exposed.
 
O... K...


 
 
NIV Deuteronomy 18:17-22
 17.  The LORD said to me: "What they say is good.
 18.  I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.
 19.  If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.
 20.  But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death."
 21.  You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?"
 22.  If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
 

NIV Deuteronomy 13:1-5
1.  If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder,
 2.  and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them,"
 3.  you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul.
 4.  It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him.
 5.  That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.
 
 


"There are those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints do not believe in the traditional Christ.
 
No, I don't.
The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak.”
 
– LDS President Gordon B. Hinckley (LDS Church News, June 20, 1998)
 
 

 
 
Matthew 24:23-24
 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible.
 

Matthew 7:15
 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
 
 
Matthew 24:10-11
 10.  At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other,
 11.  and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
 
 
 Mark 13:21-22
 21.  At that time if anyone says to you, `Look, here is the Christ!' or, `Look, there he is!' do not believe it.
 22.  For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect--if that were possible.
 
 
 Luke 6:26
Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for that is how their fathers treated the false prophets.
 
 
 Acts 13:6-7
 6.  They traveled through the whole island until they came to Paphos. There they met a Jewish sorcerer and false prophet named Bar-Jesus,
 7.  who was an attendant of the proconsul, Sergius Paulus. The proconsul, an intelligent man, sent for Barnabas and Saul because he wanted to hear the word of God.
 
 
2 Corinthians 11:12-14
 12.  And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.
 13.  For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
 14.  And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
 
 
 2 Corinthians 11:26
  I have been constantly on the move. I have been in danger from rivers, in danger from bandits, in danger from my own countrymen, in danger from Gentiles; in danger in the city, in danger in the country, in danger at sea; and in danger from false brothers.
 
 
Galatians 2:4
 [This matter arose] because some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves.
 
 
 2 Peter 2:1
 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 
 
 1 John 4:1
  Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

31 posted on 07/04/2009 3:20:35 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Once again; an avowed atheist is drawn, like a moth, to the flame of religious threads...

Elsie, my favorite transgendered born againer, you have that right. It is like watching a cat fight in the mud, the hypocrisy is laid bare for all to see. I really do enjoy the laughs : )

32 posted on 07/04/2009 6:33:29 AM PDT by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: LeGrande

And I like your tagline.

I’ve used it other places...


33 posted on 07/04/2009 10:14:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
And I like your tagline.

I’ve used it other places...

You do know it is aimed at people like you, who don't believe their lying eyes : )

34 posted on 07/04/2009 10:52:34 AM PDT by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: LeGrande; Elsie
It is like watching a cat fight in the mud, the hypocrisy is laid bare for all to see.

Speaking of hypocrisy...i think of the person you were named after -- LeGrande Richards, who wrote A Marvelous Work & Wonder. Since you're an avowed atheist, were Els & I to write a bio of you, I think we'd have to title it, A Marvelous Random Accident From Goo

35 posted on 07/04/2009 12:07:32 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Speaking of hypocrisy...i think of the person you were named after -- LeGrande Richards, who wrote A Marvelous Work & Wonder

I wasn't named after him, but how would that be hypocritical?

Since you're an avowed atheist, were Els & I to write a bio of you, I think we'd have to title it, A Marvelous Random Accident From Goo

If you do write my bio, I would prefer A Random Walk to Truth, for the title : )

36 posted on 07/04/2009 4:12:42 PM PDT by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: Elsie

Sure. Mornonism doesn’t have a corner on hypocrisy.
You’ve taught me that.


37 posted on 07/04/2009 9:12:04 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Elsie

I feel honored. 3 posts to me? Hit a nerve dude?


38 posted on 07/04/2009 9:12:56 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Elsie
wolf in sheeps

you're actually pretty good looking Elsie.

39 posted on 07/04/2009 9:16:39 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Colofornian

You do realize that this is part of the same church that was part of the Texas polygismist church that got shut down awhile. That leader worked with Terrill, and Geody, and trust me it’s way twisted. He blamed everybody that them not having faith is why he has STD’s also. I think he may need a pycho sexual evalution to check things out. Besides them being in Magna, UT There in Grand Junction, CO. Monticello, UT. I only know cause my aunt(now Kim Nickelson) was with Terrill and they tried to say I was the Lamb of God”sacrife for mankind sins” and that I was supposed to be there 2nd wife and that’s when my freewill comes in cause I’m free. It’s messed up. I know alot of there secrets and they said that the world is going to end and that we all have to run up to Idaho to live in July of 2009. There’s so much about them, I think I’ll write all their secrets and post them or maybe just stay the quiet little mouse that watches. It’s amazing how people act. However, it’s all our 1st admendment. Freedom of Speech, right. left, wrong. You think Mr. T Dalton is bad, never meet his brother sean. He’s 10 times as worse.


40 posted on 07/04/2009 9:42:55 PM PDT by LAMBOFGOD1
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