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To: MarkBsnr
Would not evil be more or less defined as the absence of God?

No. The (chas veshalom!) "absence of G-d" would mean . . . nothing. Not empty space, but . . . nothing.

G-d and evil are rooted in G-d's nature and decrees. There is no independent morality or ethics based on any other consideration.

It is not Theists who have a "problem of evil" to solve (since G-d is absolutely necessary to objective evil to exist). It is atheists who insist that even in a self-existent universe devoid of all meaning, some things are still objectively "evil."

6 posted on 07/29/2009 7:32:51 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Ani hagever ra'ah `ani, beshevet `evrato!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Good and evil are rooted in God's nature and decrees. There is no independent morality or ethics based on any other consideration.

An absurd position utterly demolished by Plato's Euthyphro.

7 posted on 07/29/2009 7:44:54 PM PDT by John Locke
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To: Zionist Conspirator

***Would not evil be more or less defined as the absence of God?
No. The (chas veshalom!) “absence of G-d” would mean . . . nothing. Not empty space, but . . . nothing.

G-d and evil are rooted in G-d’s nature and decrees. There is no independent morality or ethics based on any other consideration. ***

Interesting. If satan is an angel in opposition to God, then is satan an agent of God according to your understanding?

***It is not Theists who have a “problem of evil” to solve (since G-d is absolutely necessary to objective evil to exist). It is atheists who insist that even in a self-existent universe devoid of all meaning, some things are still objectively “evil.”***

Can you expand upon this?


8 posted on 07/29/2009 7:48:14 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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