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THE CHURCH FATHERS: A DOOR TO ROME (fundamentalist warns saying they sound too Catholic)
Way of Life ^ | August 18, 2009

Posted on 08/30/2009 2:03:16 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Mad Dawg

Yep, the last time I read something this funny it was in a comic book.


21 posted on 08/30/2009 3:04:46 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mad Dawg; wagglebee
This whole article is ... well, I'm laughing so hard I think I pulled a muscle.

That makes 3 of us! BTW - tomorrow night's guest on The Journey Home is John Giles, a Former Pentecostal. Perhaps he converted after reading this article :-)

22 posted on 08/30/2009 3:19:10 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

NYer:

Mark Shea posted this article last week on his blog, Catholic and Enjoying it, and many of the posters there stated the same thing, i.e. that Pastor CLoud’s article is a testimony to the Catholic Church. Also, many posters there were former Protestants who while in graduate school studying the Bible or Theology were told be there professors to not read the Church Fathers so what happened many of them did and now are Catholic, LOL.

Really, reading this guy makes me not only laugh, but also, realize how Mormonism could only come out of American Protestantism as many of his arguments are the same as his.


23 posted on 08/30/2009 3:31:35 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: Alex Murphy

Is he the guy that claims C.S. Lewis was a Satanist?


24 posted on 08/30/2009 3:32:06 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: CTrent1564

Edit to me:

Many of Mormonism’s argument are the same as his!

Regards


25 posted on 08/30/2009 3:32:28 PM PDT by CTrent1564
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To: NYer
"Great title, too “The Church Fathers: A Door to Rome”! And he did the honor of citing the Church Fathers ... lol!"

I was thinking, "At least, he had the good manners to capitalize the words Catholics capitalize, like "Mass," and "Eucharist."

26 posted on 08/30/2009 3:37:39 PM PDT by redhead (Demand that congress abide by the 10th Amendment. O-care is ILLEGAL.)
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To: NYer
"Actually, his article stands as tremendous witness to the Catholic Church. We'll probably see him soon on The Journey Home."

I agree! I had the same intuition as I read through it. How many times (Scott Hahn come first to mind) have Protestant scholars studied these things in order to DISPROVE the authority of the Catholic Church, only to find themselves convinced and converted? "I see that God is no respecter of persons..."

27 posted on 08/30/2009 3:40:49 PM PDT by redhead (Demand that congress abide by the 10th Amendment. O-care is ILLEGAL.)
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To: NYer

Is it true that Fatso Teddie is going to be risen to sainthood. Saint Teddie of Chappaquiddick?


28 posted on 08/30/2009 3:49:16 PM PDT by RoshYisrael
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To: RoshYisrael

Since the Cardinal refused to let them use the cathedral for the funeral, and they had to run to the Jebbies, er . . . no.


29 posted on 08/30/2009 3:53:17 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: NYer

Herein lies the cundundrom;

If the Church became apostate in the first century after Christ, while there were still those who knew and were instructed by Apostles who walked with Christ, then how does one TRUST the Bible as inerrant if the very people who they claim were in error decided which books were canonical? Either they were right, or the Bible is a collection of books put together by heretics. It can’t be both.........


30 posted on 08/30/2009 3:53:21 PM PDT by wombtotomb (Equal opportunity does NOT mean equal outcome!!)
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To: wombtotomb
cunundrom
31 posted on 08/30/2009 3:54:16 PM PDT by wombtotomb (Equal opportunity does NOT mean equal outcome!!)
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To: RoshYisrael

“Is it true that Fatso Teddie is going to be risen to sainthood. Saint Teddie of Chappaquiddick?”

Insanity runs in your family, nu?


32 posted on 08/30/2009 3:57:20 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Those embryos are little humans in progress. Using them for profit is slavery.)
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To: IrishCatholic

Heh, heh, this `Romanist Mary-worshipping mackerel-snapping papist drunk’ thinks Jack Chick is more than a burrito short of a combo platter.

Forty years ago I found his “Beast 666” comic tract to be an interesting depiction of the last days of the Book of Revelation, but he’s gone totally gonzo; he now blames the ever-so-evil Catholic Church for enabling Mohammed and for the rise of Islam!

“What a maroon!”


33 posted on 08/30/2009 4:10:28 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: WKTimpco
It would be so nice to have my doctrine delivered to me on a platter by traditions.

Ah, but taking the higher and more austere road, you manfully go straight to sola Scriptura, for the rigorous, disciplined, and painful (but certainly not ascetic, because ascetic's what them thar feelthy papists do) deduction of what God requires of you.

I learned last year that in some west African country the lay Dominicans give each other the title "Joyful." Their experience of Christianity and their expression of it is so much one of joy that they have taken "joy" for their name. And this is in an area where Christians are in the minority and are sometimes martyred.

Some non-Catholics have no idea of what being Catholic is really like. They talk about "tradition" as though it were a digest of painful and onerous burdens, crisply laid out like a Product Safety Data Sheet.

But that's not it at ALL! I LOVE Augustin of Hippo, for his frankness, for the beauty of his expression -- "Sero te amavi, pulchritudo tam antiqua et tam nova, sero te amavi!" --and because this beauty gives wings to the love of Jesus which Augustine and I share. I am happy to let him give voice to my love.

Aquinas and his teaching on ethics drips, like honey, sweet drops of joyful proclamation that God made us to find our happiness in Him, in His Love, in the good works to which He calls us and for which HE equips us.

There are plenty of jerks in the world, and the Church has her share. But the same source who informed the Scriptures and their interpretation also informs the Church to this day. He has not left us comfortless, and my loving friends, brothers and sisters in the Lord, are my partners as we look at Holy Writ and to God Himself to learn who He is and what He wills for us.

I am a member of a huge family, thousands of years old! This is not a matter of hacking through a thorny thicket of lies to get to the castle of truth. It is God welcoming us a members of His family of Love, as members, indeed, of his body of love, in which the joy of one member is shared by all.

So we confidently look to our older brothers and sisters for their wisdom and guidance, because we are not so afraid that God will abandon us, His family. We are not afraid.

34 posted on 08/30/2009 4:11:45 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary,conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: RoshYisrael
Oh wow, I can't wait to be a part of his cult! The size 56 checked boxer shorts, the sacred glass of Bourbon, the sacred ritual dialogue:
People: How you doon, Uncle Ted?
Leader: Let's go out and find some chicks.
People: Try to stay on the road and out of the water, Uncle Ted.
Leader: Haw Haw. What does it matter? We've got the best lawyers.
35 posted on 08/30/2009 4:31:57 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary,conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: wombtotomb
"conundrum".

16th-c. Oxford University Latin slang for pedant, whim, etc.; early sp. quonundrum

36 posted on 08/30/2009 4:32:57 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

ty. I did spell check and it had no suggestions. I am normally an excellent speller, but that word has been used verbally only for me; I have not yet had to attempt a spelling of it LOL.


37 posted on 08/30/2009 4:34:36 PM PDT by wombtotomb (Equal opportunity does NOT mean equal outcome!!)
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To: NYer
His argument that "the church fathers look Catholic because the wicked Romanists only allowed their Catholic writings to survive" is an amusing one.

How does he account for all of the Orthodox churches which have bishops, believe in Apostolic succession, believe in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, have seven sacraments, and reject sola scriptura ... and in some cases, were out of contact with Rome -- to say nothing of Rome's inability to tell them what to believe -- almost from apostolic times?

I'm thinking of the Armenians and the Ethiopians, but even more of the "Mar Thoma" Christians in India, who hold that their communities were founded by the Apostle Thomas himself.

They aren't ultramontane Latin Rite Catholics, but definitely aren't Baptists, either.

38 posted on 08/30/2009 4:39:56 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: wombtotomb
It's because it's Latin. And it took awhile for everybody to figure out how to spell it, it's a nonsense word.

Only reason I knew is I saw it in Donn Byrne's Destiny Bay on the printed page.

39 posted on 08/30/2009 4:40:01 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: WOSG

I like your post..can’t believe we have Catholic bashing on Freep. Give me a break!

But , I give up...what is ex nihilo....I never made it past the latin mass for Latin.ha.


40 posted on 08/30/2009 4:48:34 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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