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‘Good Without God,’ Atheist Subway Ads Proclaim
NY Times ^ | 10/20/2009 | Jennifer 8. Lee

Posted on 10/20/2009 3:41:00 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953

Coalition of Reason An advertisement that promotes atheism will run in a dozen subway stations in Manhattan for a month starting next Monday.

Atheism is coming to the subway — or at least subway ads promoting it are.

Starting next Monday, a coalition of local groups will run a monthlong advertising campaign in a dozen Manhattan subway stations with the slogan “A Million New Yorkers Are Good Without God. Are You?” The posters also advertise the Web site BigAppleCoR.org, which provides a listing of local groups affiliated with the Coalition of Reason, the umbrella organization that coordinated the campaign.

(Excerpt) Read more at cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics
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No wonder many call NY Babylon.
1 posted on 10/20/2009 3:41:03 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953
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To: guitarplayer1953

Without God we get White House czars and Communications directors who think Mao was a wonderful “philosopher” and that fact he murdered and slaughtered 70 million people to be immaterial, after all, who are we to judge?


2 posted on 10/20/2009 3:48:32 PM PDT by GeronL (They Made It Happen On Purpose Economically. MIHOPE)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Good without God ay? Only a liberal educated fool would write such a book. No thanks... all praise and honor goes to the Almighty Wonderful God of the universe!


3 posted on 10/20/2009 3:51:45 PM PDT by tflabo
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To: guitarplayer1953
Soviet Poster

the atheist at his bench

4 posted on 10/20/2009 3:57:05 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Sadly ironic.

An atheist can’t consistently discuss goodness, nor even the trying to convince anyone of anything.

Yet they’re compelled.

Study for abnormal psychology, perhaps.


5 posted on 10/20/2009 3:59:18 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: guitarplayer1953

I think this will backfire on the atheists. Most non-believers don’t actively disbelieve in God as much as they simply don’t think about him. These ads will likely get some unbelievers and lukewarm believers to think about God, and perhaps seek Him. If any intellectually honest person considers the existance of a Creator, he will undoubtedly realize that logic dictates that their must be one.

I think radical atheists like these, “doth protest too much”. If someone truly does not believe in God, he will not care to discuss or even think about the issue. He will simply, quietly smirk at those silly, religious people, or think “If it makes them happy, what is it to me if they hold onto their superstitions.”

Deep down, radical, activist atheists KNOW there is a God and are desperately striving to escape their accountability to Him.


6 posted on 10/20/2009 4:04:19 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: guitarplayer1953

Good without Santa Claus, the Boogie Man, and God.


7 posted on 10/20/2009 4:06:53 PM PDT by Salman
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To: guitarplayer1953

2 Timothy 3
“Difficult Times Will Come”

1.But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come.
2.For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy,
3.unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good,
4.treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
5.holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these.


8 posted on 10/20/2009 4:07:48 PM PDT by tflabo
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Did Albert Einstein Believe in a Personal God?

However, it would also seem that Einstein was not an atheist, since he also complained about being put into that camp:

"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views."

"I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangements of the books, but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God."

9 posted on 10/20/2009 4:21:52 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: Salman; guitarplayer1953
I'd be curious to hear the term “good” defined. What is “good”, the absence of “bad”? Then what is “bad”? I'm pretty sure “good” will just mean that which results in something positive for the person. All relative and situational. Is this a good guess???
10 posted on 10/20/2009 4:26:30 PM PDT by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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How can one have a moral compass without God? The cannibals in their own minds considered eating their enemies that they killed in battle. That was good in their own eyes.
11 posted on 10/20/2009 4:36:06 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Einstein also stated: “I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth.”

I think that’s a pretty definite “No.”


12 posted on 10/20/2009 4:37:24 PM PDT by Boxen (There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance.)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Why would atheists need to be evangelical?


13 posted on 10/20/2009 4:39:37 PM PDT by Nachoman (Think of life as an adventure you don't survive.)
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To: guitarplayer1953

Interesting. Of course, I assume that, being reality-based, they have comprehensive factual support for their claims that (a) there are a million atheists in the metropolitan New York area and (b) said individuals are in fact on a 24/7/365 basis perfectly good without God. I particularly look forward to the evidence for (b).


14 posted on 10/20/2009 4:44:09 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: guitarplayer1953
In reading the advertisement, I suspect that the unstated presupposition is that all atheists are unethical or bad people. This raises all sorts of meta-ethical questions, such as what do you mean by “good”? How do you define “good”? Who decides what is “good”? Why is being good “good”? How much “good” is good enough?

The advertisement assumes that we know the answer to all these meta-ethical questions, and that “good” means the same to all people. None of this is true. What is “good” for an Atheist may not be “good” for a Christian. In fact, many things that an Atheist would call good, a Christian might call bad or evil. Take the issues of abortion, war, homosexuality, and adultery for instance. I would even go so far as to speculate that there is disagreement among Atheists as to what is good.
Secondly, it is stupid for Theists or Atheists to fight over who is morally superior. The facts are that Theists and Atheists are guilty of horrible acts. Atheists are just as capable of being moral as a Christian is capable of being moral. Of course, the reasons for being moral are motivated by different motivations. If morality simply means that that an individual is not engaged in murdering, raping, and robbing his neighbor, being “good” is not that difficult.
Finally, as a Christian, I believe that God has written his law in our hearts, whether we are Theists or Atheists. There is something in us that instinctively knows right from wrong.
I'm delighted that you don't have to be a theist in order to be good. Imagine what our world would look like it that wasn't true.

15 posted on 10/20/2009 4:47:03 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: boatbums

Do you need threats of torture from on high to help other people, or even merely avoid harming them?


16 posted on 10/20/2009 4:55:41 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Nosterrex
Rape and plunder was considered good by the Greeks and others along with homosexuality, like I said what is good defined by the mind of man is not necessarily good. History is full of it. In the eyes of the atheist doctor life has no meaning look at the Nazi doctors and the abortionist did and do today. The bible says that there is a was which seem right to man but leads only to death.
17 posted on 10/20/2009 5:05:00 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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I wonder if this "ad campaign" is a set-up for the concept that America should have freedom from Religion rather than of. Atheists, such as Michael Newdow(sp?) want the phrase "Under God" removed from the Pledge of Allegiance, "In God we Trust" removed from money, the posting of the Ten Commandments taken down, etc., etc.. He also said something to the effect that an atheist should be allowed to be elected POTUS. With the majority of Americans today professing a belief in God, they want to prove that people who don't believe are just as good, just as moral, just as worthy of leadership roles in the government.

Obama, with his various czars, doesn't care to make the true beliefs of his "advisors" known. It is only by other's investigations that their true colors come out and we're not liking what we are seeing. There is always an ulterior motive to everything they do.

18 posted on 10/20/2009 5:12:07 PM PDT by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: Salman
Do you need threats of torture from on high to help other people, or even merely avoid harming them?

No...but the question is how and who defines what is "good"? I.e.; helping other people, to me, may mean abetting a suicide. Handing the gun to a depressed person and encouraging them to put themselves out of their misery. Would everyone consider this a "good" act on my part? Like I said, without objective truth, all things must be subjective and relative. Everyone doing what is right "In their own eyes.". Sound familiar?

19 posted on 10/20/2009 5:21:31 PM PDT by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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To: Nachoman
Why would atheists need to be evangelical?

Strength in Numbers (SIN)

20 posted on 10/20/2009 5:36:46 PM PDT by Between the Lines (For their sins of 50 million abortions God gave them over to be an ObamaNation {Romans 1:24-32})
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