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To: Godzilla; Mr Rogers; All
Interesting question given the teachings of the ucg that, with the exception of them, of course, the rest of Christianity has fallen into apostasy.

I don't think it's just UCG that thinks that Christianity has fallen into apostasy. There are major Christian denominations that have clearly done so. The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America has decided that non-repentent homosexuals can serve in the clergy. Anglican have appointed a gay bishop. Mega churches teach prosperity gospels. TV preachers fleece the flock. Christianity is a big business and many retailers, booksellers and others exploit the name of Christ to earn a buck.

No, there's no doubt that Christianity IS in apostasy. It's the natural result of failing to recognize sin.

Is UCG perfect? Of course not. All organizations of men are prone to corruption. All's we can hope to do is recognize those who have the spirit of Christ and fellowship with them.

You spoke truth concerning the core doctrines of ucg as well.

You did and it's no secret. It's public. It's the mission of the organization to publicize it. The organization maintains several websites in order to fulfill the great commission:

Good News Magazine

UCG Main Website

Virtual Christian

World News and Prophecy

Vertical Thought

So instead of clarifying or defending those points, you are asked this. However, by exposing this, it is possible that you will now be considered, shall we say, persona non gratis because you don't smother it in sugary, sloppy agape'

As I told you freepmail, I don't have a problem clarifying or defending a point. I do have a problem continuing to communicate with people who are rude, ungracious and impolite. And especially when they claim to have the spirit of Christ.

85 posted on 11/01/2009 3:50:45 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC; Mr Rogers
I don't think it's just UCG that thinks that Christianity has fallen into apostasy.

Be precise doug - ucg claims that it has been apostate since the end of the apostolic era. Of course Armstrong claimed to have ucg (and other armstrong splinters) claim to be the one true church - big difference and classic characteristic of a cult.

Christianity is a big business and many retailers, booksellers and others exploit the name of Christ to earn a buck.

And 'ol Herbert spent oodles and oodles of money as he raked in a 30% tithe (wow mormonism looks good compared to this).

You did and it's no secret. It's public. It's the mission of the organization to publicize it. The organization maintains several websites in order to fulfill the great commission:

Point by point the doctrine is that laid out by Armstrong. You earlier stated you didn't pay any particular attention to him - yet every doctrine being espoused here by ucg has its fundamental basis in armstrong.

All's we can hope to do is recognize those who have the spirit of Christ and fellowship with them.

How so, since according to the teaching of armstrong (and adopted by the ucg) we all are under "a counterfeit message" that denies us this 'spirit'. Actually, I'm glad I have the Holy Spirit, Third Person of the Trinity, and not this amorphous spirit talked about by the ucg.

As I told you freepmail, I don't have a problem clarifying or defending a point. I do have a problem continuing to communicate with people who are rude, ungracious and impolite. And especially when they claim to have the spirit of Christ.

Hmmmmm, point out flaws in translation application - rude
Identify teachings as being cultic and non-Christian - ungracious
Have the audacity not to let false statement stand - impolite.

Come on Doug, you've been around the block here in FR Religion long enough to know that you better develop thick skin when having your theology challenged (heaven knows I've had to), and that has nothing to do with challenging the 'spirit' in my life. Lurkers don't particularly pay attention to a victim card being played.

87 posted on 11/01/2009 5:37:37 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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