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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Uri,
So your beef is that the Church celebrates Easter, when Christ rose from the dead? That they worship on Sundays, Lord’s Day of Resurrection?

And your secondary beef is that the Church doesn’t celebrate the days of feasting given to the nation of Israel?

The Feast Days were not given to the Church to celebrate.

They are not commanded to be celebrated by the Church in the Epistles to the Churches - nor is the Sabbath commanded to be celebrated. Those days were commanded to the nation of Israel, which is distinct from the Church. Neither is the Passover.

Nor are there Jews and Gentiles in Christ. The body of Christ, the Church, is composed of all who trust in Christ for salvation - not recognizing Jews or Gentiles. Those who seek to put up artificial distinctions and divide the Body of Christ are mistaken.

best,
ampu

YHvH gave His Feast Days to all of mankind not just the Jews.

They were given to all mankind first to be celebrated;
there is also a prophetic metaphor contained when He re-celebrated on His first coming.

Yah'shua did not rise on Easter; Easter is no where near the Passover
which Yah'shua celebrated with His Apostles known to some as the last supper.

John the Immerser proclaimed Yah'shua as the Lamb of G-d.
The blood of the slain Lamb of G-d was used to cover
the sins so the angel of death would passover all who
accepted the the lamb's blood sacrifice on their doorway.

Yah'shua celebrated his last passover as the Lamb of G-d.,
a YHvH commanded Feast day, on the evening of the 14th of Nisan.
where He gave new meaning to the third cup of wine and the afikomen

He died on the YHvH commanded feast of Hag HaMatzot-Unleavened Bread
the 15th of Nisan, where all leaven, a metaphor for sin, is removed.

He rose from the dead on the YHvH commanded Feast day of First Fruits
(Hag ha Bikkurim) which occurs on the day following the shabbat following Passover.
Most likely at the beginning of the G-d commanded day at sundown after shabbat.
This is the day that the best of the harvest is offered to G-d.

Easter has no connection whatever to Yah'shua; it is a Pagan Fable.

The creation of Easter by Constantine is an affront to the creator of the universe
and the sacrifice offered for all of mankind for the redemption of sin.

The Spirit of G-d descended on the apostles on the YHvH commanded
Feast of Shavuot also known as Pentecost in the LXX.

The next YHvH commanded Feast to be re-celebrated is the Feast of Trumpets,
on the first day of the month of Tishrei, during which the last trumpet is blown.
The only Feast for which the day nor hour can not be known until it arrives.

All of this information can be found in G-d's Holy Word in Leviticus 23

The Apostles who were all Jews, continued to celebrate YHvH's commanded Feast Days.

There is nothing in the Holy Word of G-d stopping the celebration of YHvH's commanded Feasts.
This is why John says he was in the spirit on the YHvH's Day: Shabbat in Rev 1:10.

Looking carefully and prayerfully at the Gospels, one will see that Yah'shua celebrated Shabbat.

He rebuked the Pharisees for changing or adding man-made Traditions which impugned
the Holy Word of G-d and the celebration of His Shabbat.

The church or Ekklesia are all those who are called out by YHvH as His assembled people.

See Deuteronomy 4:10

NAU Deuteronomy 4:10 "Remember the day you stood before YHvH your God at Horeb,
when YHvH said to me, 'Assemble the people to Me, that I may let them hear My words
Man was never given permission by YHvH to replace His commanded Feast Days
and replace them with pagan feast days commanded by the Evil One.

YHvH commanded His Feast Days for all mankind both to His chosen people
and with Paul to the Gentiles who were to be grafted in to His assembled people as well.

Yah'shua answered the scribes and Peter heard and had his amanuensis, Mark, write down.

NAU Mark 12:29 Jesus answered, "The foremost is,
'HEAR, O ISRAEL! YHvH OUR GOD IS ONE YHvH (Deu 6:4)
There is but one YHvH and I choose to follow His Commandments.
NAU Exodus 20:6 but showing lovingkindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

NAU Deuteronomy 5:10 but showing lovingkindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

NAU John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

also see:
Exod. 20:6; Deut. 5:10; 7:9; 11:1, 13; 30:16; Jos. 22:5; Neh. 1:5;
Ps. 119:47f, 127; Dan. 9:4; Jn. 14:15, 21; 15:10; 1 Jn. 5:2f; 2 Jn. 1:6
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
86 posted on 11/01/2009 4:02:35 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

“YHvH gave His Feast Days to all of mankind not just the
Jews.

Scripture reference that says this please... Leviticus 24 says...

” 1 The LORD said to Moses, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and
say to them: ‘These are my appointed feasts ...” In fact
God addresses “the Israelites” throughout the whole chapter -
not all mankind, so I am thinking you must be referring to
another passage that extends the feasts to all mankind. I
just don’t know what passage you are referring to. Please
point me to such a passage.

“...there is also a prophetic metaphor contained when He
re-celebrated on His first coming.

Here, we agree.

“Easter has no connection whatever to Yah’shua; it is a
Pagan Fable.”

Not exactly (see end of post) Easter is a day of remembering
Christ’s Resurrection. I celebrate THAT - not any pagan
celebration.

“The creation of Easter by Constantine is an affront to
the creator of the universe and the sacrifice offered for
all of mankind for the redemption of sin.”

Sorry, here I don’t find God upset that the Church remembers
to celebrate the Resurrection on Easter. Constantine did not
“create Easter”. He unified it’s celebration to end a faction.

“The Apostles who were all Jews, continued to celebrate YHvH’s commanded Feast Days.”

At first, because as you note, they were of Jewish lineage
and upbringing. They did not command this of the Church
of Christ.

“There is nothing in the Holy Word of G-d stopping the celebration of YHvH’s commanded Feasts.”

No, and Jews (not those who have become Christians) should
be doing what they were commanded.

“Looking carefully and prayerfully at the Gospels, one will see that Yah’shua celebrated Shabbat.”

Of course, He was Jewish and fulfilled all righteousness. He
could do no other.

“The church or Ekklesia are all those who are called out by YHvH as His assembled people.”

The Church is the Body of Christ. This is different than
the nation of Israel. Christians have no problem using
the word Church.

“Man was never given permission by YHvH to replace His
commanded Feast Days and replace them with pagan feast
days commanded by the Evil One.”

I think we already covered Jews being obedient to what they
were commanded, which is different than what the Body
of Christ was commanded in the Epistles.

“YHvH commanded His Feast Days for all mankind both to His
chosen people and with Paul to the Gentiles who were to be
grafted in to His assembled people as well.

Scripture reference for the second part of your claim please... I know of no writing of Paul that commands the
celebration of Jewish Feast Days.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As extra historic material (for anyone lurking here) about
the background of the celebration of Easter...

“Easter was originally observed on the day following the end of the Passover fast (14 Nisan), regardless of the day of the week on which it fell. In the mid-second century, however, some Gentile Christians began to celebrate it on the Sunday after 14 Nisan, with the preceding Friday observed as the day of Christ’s crucifixion, regardless of the date on which it fell. The resulting controversy over the correct time for observing the Easter festival reached a head in a.d. 197, when Victor of Rome excommunicated those Christians who insisted on celebrating Easter on 14 Nisan. The dispute continued until the early fourth century, when the Quarto-decimans (from Latin for ‘14’) were required by Emperor Constantine to conform to the empire-wide practice of observing Easter on the Sunday following 14 Nisan, rather than on that date itself.”
(Harpers Bible Dictionary)

best,
ampu


88 posted on 11/01/2009 6:32:09 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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