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To: NYer

the faithful commemorate a Turkish bishop in the early church


Is this some sick joke?

Saint Nicholas was a fully Hellenic Greek father of the Christian Faith.

Nothing Turkish about him except that Muslim Turks destroyed what Christians created throughout Asia Minor.


15 posted on 12/06/2009 8:38:46 AM PST by eleni121 (For God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: eleni121
I refused to listen to ever listen to Andy Rooney (of "60 Minutes" and newspaper columns) about 10-15 years ago when he got publicly angry at the Greeks for criticizing him for precisely this same stupid error on his part. (He reported that St. Nicholas was Turkish ancestry.) Most normal people think accuracy in what is reported in the mass media is important, but not Andy Rooney and the rest of the TV "jornalists" for that matter.

Another important point they are incapable of understanding is that the Muslims never, never "conquered Turkey". What happened is the the Muslim Turks conquered Asia Minor.

Also, if not for the stupid British Empire helping the Muslims every chance they could get for centuries, the Christians would have been free of Islamic tyranny many years earlier, with an immense savings of millions of lives. The way things are looking,m England is being Islamicized by their immigrants, and sad to say they brought it on themselves.

26 posted on 12/06/2009 2:44:20 PM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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1. there's no proof that he was a "fully Hellenic Greek" -- like other people in that part of the Roman Empire, he would have spoken Greek and Latin, yes -- most likely only Greek. BUT, he would most likely be ethnically a mix of Ionian Greeks, Lydians, maybe Armenians, Romans and Galatian Celts and maybe also some Jewish or Aramaic blood.

1087 was the time when much of Anatolia was conquered and made the Sultanate of Rum.

And, those weren't technically Italians -- the south of Italy has Greek blood and had long-standing ties to Greece (wasn't Bari founded by Greeks?)
39 posted on 12/07/2009 5:30:07 AM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca NOW!!!<img src="http://shiitehappens.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/bomb_mecca450.jpg" />)
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