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To: Zionist Conspirator
If you can determine from the universe as it exists today that it could not have been created in six days 5769+ years ago because of the uniformitarian assumption, then you must also reject the virgin birth because such things simply don't happen. If you are going to exempt the virgin birth from the uniformitarian assumption, then you must logically exempt the creation of the universe from it as well. Are you saying that the creation of the universe (however long it took - being after all, scripturally, it is stated that a "day is like a thousand years" and vice versa), by a God with no beginning and no end, is something that can ever be completely or literally understood even by "formitarian" facts that of themselves (as well as the human mind itself doing the interpreting) are of a completely different and limited categorical dimension than the subject being studied itself?? Absurdity!
57 posted on 12/16/2009 8:59:02 AM PST by Kandy
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To: Kandy
In support of your statement, “..scripturally, it is stated that a ‘day is like a thousand years’..”

The Hebrew word for “day” means the same thing it does in English: “Daytime”; 24 hours (sunset to sunset); or an unspecific period of time such as “Age, Era, etc.”

62 posted on 12/16/2009 9:11:47 AM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: Kandy
Are you saying that the creation of the universe (however long it took - being after all, scripturally, it is stated that a "day is like a thousand years" and vice versa), by a God with no beginning and no end, is something that can ever be completely or literally understood even by "formitarian" facts that of themselves (as well as the human mind itself doing the interpreting) are of a completely different and limited categorical dimension than the subject being studied itself?? Absurdity!

I'm not sure I understand the point you're making, but I'll answer what I believe your question to be.

The exact manner and mode of the creation is part of the esoteric mystical tradition and is known only to those to whom it has been expounded. I am not claiming that I know this or that "any milkmaid" (as Luther would have put it) can read the text of Genesis and understand exactly how it was done or all of the details.

What I am insisting on is that the formation of the universe cannot be reduced to purely natural laws and processes as we know them today (and happening in a time frame which such processes would require today) by anyone who believes in an Omnipotent G-d and in the supernatural without that person being illogical and inconsistent.

I am also saying that anyone who rejects the "literal" truth of Genesis but who defends the literal truth of the "virgin birth" is inconsistent and a hypocrite.

67 posted on 12/16/2009 9:21:01 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vaya`an Yosef 'et-Par`oh le'mor bil`aday; 'Eloqim ya`aneh 'et-shelom Par`oh.)
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