I asked for information of the Church’s doctrinal attitude on certain matters. I guess that would be a “corporate you.” I also realize that the instruction you deliver is your “personal” understanding of Church doctrine.
“Help a sick guy out here: what post is that section in quotes from?”
I’m sorry to hear you’re not in good health. You should see a doctor about that before 0bamaCare takes affect. The post was #282.
“Here's a big generalization, probably unfair:”
A generalization functions to help us organize our thinking. If it is “unfair,” or is otherwise maladroit, then it is not helpful. This “binary” Protestant was looking to better understand whether or not the Catholic Church’s doctrinal attitude enables it to join the rest of us who call ourselves ‘Conservative’ in rising to the defense of Western Civilization (in defense of the Judeo-Christian tradition). A nuance is capable of helping us to a sophisticated understanding of a complicated truth. It can also be used to obfuscate an issue. I don’t take your intent to be one of obfuscation. My inquiry was a fairly straight-forward proposition. I was looking for a fairly straight-forward reply. Perhaps that is not possible.
“papist me would be a great deal more likely to be marching and praying with an OPC Presbyterian or a SBC Baptist, (technically, I suppose, heretics and schismatics) than with a modern Episcopalian.”
Nothing technical involved. If one does not formally subscribe to Catholic doctrine, then one is heretic, schismatic, pagan, and ‘outside’ the Church, according to the Catholic point of view. Apparently, you do not take the shunning injunction to the point of not praying or marching in common cause with Christians not of your sect. My assumption is that, like the half of my family that is Catholic, there are many of your persuasion (though certainly not all).
“Maybe I'm unrealistic, but I think OUR differences here are not the threat to the role and place of the Judaeo-Christian in our Countries weltanschauung as is the bastard child liberal progressivism and atheistic humanism.”
Yes. It appears that you and I share a good deal in our worldview. I recognize that there are also many Protestants ‘outside’ Christianity, just as Pelosi, Kennedy, et al, are ‘outside’ Catholicism. The truth is, I consider Pelosi, Kennedy, et al likewise ‘outside’ Christianity. They all (Protestant and Catholic alike) have foresworn their Christian integrity for political expediency or for some other societal ideology.
Well, actually I dispute that. I'm busily disputing it with verdadjusticia. I would say NOT that y'all are "outside" but that you're not all the way inside. I also would hesitate to classify all those thing especially "pagan" as having the same degree or kind of outsideness.
If Pelousy et al are Christians, they are very BAD Christians. They certainly are outside the "tradition" of thought which informed the Signers and Founders.
In other news:
I was looking for a fairly straight-forward reply. Perhaps that is not possible.
Well, I fear in my case it's an "improbable possible."
They all (Protestant and Catholic alike) have foresworn their Christian integrity for political expediency or for some other societal ideology.That certainly is the way it looks. Being unable to see into their hearts I cannot be certain but their words and actions simply appear incompatible with the teachings of Our Lord. Sadly often mine fall short as well though. Since we are all certain He is both a Just and a Merciful Judge we can all hope.