Ok, let’s see if your point is valid:
“Infinite” can mean (1) “indeterminate” like an endless number (e.g., the last decimal number of pi or the last number of 1/3 of 1), (2) “indefinite” (e.g., beginning or end of a sphere or the last second of an open universe) or (3) “complete / perfect.” Things that are incapable of improvement (e.g., the knowledge of God, the mercy and love of God).
The word can only be found in three places in the AV:
1) Job 22:5 Is not thy wickedness great? and thine iniquities infinite?
Eliphaz told Job his iniquities were infinite [“qets”].
2) Ps 147:5 Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite[“micpar”]
You overlooked Nah 3:9:
3) Nah 3:9 Ethiopia and Egypt were her strength, and it was infinite [“qatseh”]; Put and Lubim were thy helpers.
The Hebrew words in these three passages are linked to another Hebrew word, “`ayin” which means “to be nothing, not exist.” The only time “ infinite” is used in reference to God is in Ps 147:5 which doesn’t use it in regards to his nature but to his UNDERSTANDING.
In reality, these Hebrew words don’t convey “infinity” and are used many times for things that aren’t infinite.
On the other hand, we Latter-day Saints agree with the idea of God’s infinity despite it can’t be found in the Bible since our Latter-day Scriptures repeatedly mention it:
a) 2 Ne 1:10 But behold, when the time cometh that they shall dwindle in unbelief, after they have received so great blessings from the hand of the Lord—having a knowledge of the creation of the earth, and all men, knowing the great and marvelous works of the Lord from the creation of the world; having power given them to do all things by faith; having all the commandments from the beginning, and having been brought by his INFINITE goodness into this precious land of promise—behold, I say, if the day shall come that they will reject the Holy One of Israel, the true Messiah, their Redeemer and their God, behold, the judgments of him that is just shall rest upon them.
b) 2 Ne 9:7 Wherefore, it must needs be an INFINITE atonement—save it should be an INFINITE atonement this corruption could not put on incorruption. Wherefore, the first judgment which came upon man must needs have remained to an endless duration. And if so, this flesh must have laid down to rot and to crumble to its mother earth, to rise no more.
c) 2 Ne 25:16 And after they have been scattered, and the Lord God hath scourged them by other nations for the space of many generations, yea, even down from generation to generation until they shall be persuaded to believe in Christ, the Son of God, and the atonement, which is INFINITE for all mankind—and when that day shall come that they shall believe in Christ, and worship the Father in his name, with pure hearts and clean hands, and look not forward any more for another Messiah, then, at that time, the day will come that it must needs be expedient that they should believe these things.
d) Alma 34:10,12,14 For it is expedient that there should be a great and last sacrifice; yea, not a sacrifice of man, neither of beast, neither of any manner of fowl; for it shall not be a human sacrifice; but it must be an INFINITE and eternal sacrifice ... But the law requireth the life of him who hath murdered; therefore there can be nothing which is short of an INFINITE atonement which will suffice for the sins of the world. And behold, this is the whole meaning of the law, every whit pointing to that great and last sacrifice; and that great and last sacrifice will be the Son of God, yea, infinite and eternal.
Jesus Christ performed an infinite atonement (Heb 7:25).
e) Mosi 5:3 And we, ourselves, also, through the INFINITE goodness of God, and the manifestations of his Spirit, have great views of that which is to come; and were it expedient, we could prophesy of all things.
f) Hela 12:1 And thus we can behold how false, and also the unsteadiness of the hearts of the children of men; yea, we can see that the Lord in his great INFINITE goodness doth bless and prosper those who put their trust in him.
g) Moro 8:3 I am mindful of you always in my prayers, continually praying unto God the Father in the name of his Holy Child, Jesus, that he, through his INFINITE goodness and grace, will keep you through the endurance of faith on his name to the end.
God’s righteousness is infinite.
h) Mosi 28:4 And thus did the Spirit of the Lord work upon them, for they were the very vilest of sinners. And the Lord saw fit in his INFINITE mercy to spare them; nevertheless they suffered much anguish of soul because of their iniquities, suffering much and fearing that they should be cast off forever.
God’s mercy is infinite.
i) D&C 20:17 By these things we know that there is a God in heaven, who is INFINITE and eternal, from everlasting to everlasting the same unchangeable God, the framer of heaven and earth, and all things which are in them;
D&C 20:28 Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God, INFINITE and eternal, without end. Amen.
God is infinite.
I find it interesting that the Latter-day Scriptures explicitly mention God, and all three members of the Godhead as being infinite whereas the Bible doesn’t mention God is infinite. Despite the word is absent in the Bible (in relation to God’s nature), it is used as a descriptive term in reference to God.
The problem is the fact that since the Bible never uses the word in reference to God’s nature, any insistence by our opponents on using the word “infinite” against the Mormon concept of deity is untenable. All a Mormon needs to do to an opponent who claims “God is infinite” is ask where in the Bible is the word used in reference to God’s nature. Our advantage is the fact that the Latter-day Scriptures clearly refer to God as “infinite” even though it doesn’t define what “infinite” means. At least D&C 20:17,28 calls God infinite but where in the Bible does it say God is infinite and define what infinite means?
The terms: First/Last; Alpha/Omega; everlasting to everlasting; eternal; etc. don’t necessarily mean infinity and when our opponents are asked to define “infinite” will invariably use philosophical ideas derived from Greek Philosophy. How do YOU know “infinite” must be defined in such a manner when it is absent in the Bible?
As for using “olam” to mean self-existing:
Gen 49:26 The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting [OLAM] hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.
Hab 3:6 He stood, and measured the earth: he beheld, and drove asunder the nations; and the everlasting [OLAM] mountains were scattered, the perpetual hills did bow: his ways are everlasting.
Gen 17:8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan; for an everlasting [OLAM] possession; and I will be their God.
Gen 48:4 and said unto me, Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, and I will make of thee a multitude of people; and will give this land to thy seed after thee for an everlasting [OLAM] possession.
Ex 32:13 Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it forever [OLAM].
2 Sam 7:13-16,29 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever [OLAM]. I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men: But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took [it] from Saul, whom I put away before thee. And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever [OLAM] before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever [OLAM]... Therefore now let it please thee to bless the house of thy servant, that it may continue for ever [OLAM] before thee: for thou, O Lord GOD, hast spoken [it]: and with thy blessing let the house of thy servant be blessed for ever [OLAM].
2 Sam 23:5 Although my house [be] not so with God; yet he hath made with me an everlasting [OLAM] covenant, ordered in all [things], and sure: for [this is] all my salvation, and all [my] desire, although he make [it] not to grow.
Eph 3:21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
It is indisputable that the terms “everlasting, perpetual, forever, etc.” don’t automatically mean that the subject had no beginning or end and this is made even more clear when one examines the 440 times “`ôlam” appears in the OT.
The Bible refers to hills and mountains as “everlasting” and “perpetual” while also teaching that the earth had a beginning (Gen 1-2). The Israelites are supposed to reside in Canaan forever (Gen 17:8; 48:4; Ex 32:13; etc.) but the earth is supposed to be destroyed in the future which would make such an arrangement impossible to fulfill. Despite the mountains and hills are perpetual and everlasting, they will still be destroyed when the earth passes away (Ps 102:26; Heb 1:10-11; 2 Pet 3:10-11; Rev 20:11). David’s dynasty was supposed to last forever but it only lasted for a couple of centuries (and only a couple of generations for unified Israel).
So, God is OLAM but as the Bible proves, olam does not mean self-existent. Now what?
I also see your definitions which I fail to see varying from the one I submitted except in grammatical and verbiage construct, except perhaps the 3 rd construct you list, which I see no issue with even with in the "dictionary" definition of infinite.
I also see the non biblical LDS sources, as expected, despite my admonition otherwise. Given the source I will unfortunately have to dismiss those out of hand since they have no more bearing on the subject than any other work of fiction such as a Grisham novel or a work of Tolkien.
As an aside, I do find that your use of D&C 20:17 and D&C 20:28 really does you no favors on many levels, as it indicates God that has no beginning and no end, and also point directly at that pagan trinity...
But I digress...
Of course we do have the biblical ones you do cite, which contravene nothing of the definition I used despite your burring it in rhetorical muck as is SOP for the LDS.
So we are back to facts, and since that should be the basis for such debates, I see no reason to not say the infinity is argument is done.
Now as to the rest of D&C 20:17, which you have posted yet again...