Did the Catholic Church Give Us the Bible?

Creation Science Evangelism ^ | 2010 | Joshua Joscelyn

[trisham]

Since November 2006 Hovind has been serving a ten-year prison sentence in the Federal Correctional Institution, Edgefield in Edgefield, South Carolina, after being convicted of 58 federal counts, including twelve tax offenses, one count of obstructing federal agents and forty-five counts of structuring cash transactions.

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Holy mackerel.

[trisham]

I shouldn’t have been surprised, but I was.

[trisham]

An “avid soul winner”?

[ArrogantBustard]

I agree that [Redacted] is ludicrous as much as he is anything else ... but RM still forbids posting his stuff here. The history of religious discussion on this forum is singularly foul. Moderators had to impose a few rules, to maintain at least a semblance of decorum.

[wagglebee]

Because we are not supposed to reference the comical hate monger here.

[marshmallow]

Great detective work.

[GL of Sector 2814]

Well, I had no idea that I would be breaking the rules by typing his name or by posting a couple of panels from one of his tracts. I'll certainly refrain from it in the future, that being the case.

(but they're just so darned funny!)

[wagglebee]

It wasn’t that hard, take a look at the links in post #64 and you will see that they don’t even try to hide it.

[ArrogantBustard]

You’ve got mail.

[GL of Sector 2814]

Am I to gather than that [NAME REDACTED] actually has supporters here that made discussion of his tracts a contentious issue?

[wagglebee]

I don’t know that he has all that many supporters here, but there are plenty of FReepers who are more than happy to believe the worst about the Catholic Church.

[bronx2]

That rule needs to be changed. Those tracts are priceless and can provide much entertainment and intellectual stimulation for the “Cognoscenti”. I think Eflstar is very attractive and some might find something attractive in the “Mind Bondage” game being played by Little Debbie. Now if they had the Pope in the middle of their group it would be true artistic genius Some of you contributors are too judgmental.

[Free Vulcan]

Roman Catholics often forget that when the show began there were five principal church centers that rose to prominence over the others: Rome, Antioch, Constantinople, Jerusalem, and Alexandria. For centuries they more or less co-existed.

Over time Rome more or less was estranged from the other four. Some would say Rome estranged itself from the other four, not unlike the Protestants would in turn do to Rome.

Similarly, a strong theme in Roman Catholicism since then is to consider itself THE universal church, with a tendency to dismiss the other Four original churches - Eastern Orthodox, Copt, Chaldean, Cesarean and the various minor ones. They forget that they were once upon a time part of that greater body before more or less going it alone.

Ironically not unlike the Protestant church which broke off and went it’s own way, which the Catholics love to criticize, forgetting in fact they did much the same thing a few centuries earler. Roman Catholics are every bit as headstrong when it comes to asserting their primacy central church, they just don’t like to admit it, and I think tend to sweep that history under the rug a bit.

[AdamBomb]

[Mad Dawg]

Now it’s blasphemy to criticize Protestants?. We’ve got a bigger problem than Mary-worship then ....

[ArrogantBustard]

Thank you for explaining. I disagree with your understanding of history, however. I find a common theme in the first millennium of Christendom to be that the Church of Rome was seen to have a prominence above the other patriarchates. A council was not considered "ecumenical" unless attended or approved by the Bishop of Rome. The See of Rome was considered of such importance that, for example, during the Arian controversy the Eastern Emperor (or Empress) schemed to get an Arian bishop appointed to Rome. To deny the primacy of Rome is ahistorical. I think we're not the ones "sweeping history under the rug". Quite the contrary ...

Your list of the "other four" original Patriarchates (Churches) is ... wrong.

And the Chaldean Church is in communion with Rome, as are "Eastern" Churches throughout eastern Europe and Asia Minor.

And that Anglican Ordinariate was welcomed with great joy by the "Roman" Catholics on this forum.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“We have no need to claim it was handed down by His angel.”

Actually, portions were delivered by agency of angels!

“Who have received the Law by the disposition
of ANGELS, and have not kept it” (Acts 7:53).

Speaking about the Law of God, the apostle Paul in the
Book of Hebrews said,

“The word spoken by ANGELS was steadfast,
and every transgression and disobedience
received a just recompense of reward.”
(Hebrews 2:2)

You might also read this by Paul...

“Wherefore then serves the Law? It was
added because of transgressions, till
the seed should come to whom the promise
was made; and it was ordained by ANGELS
in the hand of a mediator” (Galatians 3:19)

Never the less, all scripture is inspired by
GOD.

ampu