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Did the Catholic Church Give Us the Bible?
Creation Science Evangelism ^ | 2010 | Joshua Joscelyn

Posted on 02/22/2010 6:48:33 AM PST by bogusname

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To: AdamBomb

I’d like to teach the world to sing
In perfect harmony
I’d like to hold it in my arms
And keep it company


161 posted on 11/03/2010 10:11:22 AM PDT by Jaded (Stumbling blocks ALL AROUND, some of them camouflaged well. My toes hurt, but I got past them.)
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To: AdamBomb

So sorry, here is the correct version:

I’d like to buy the world a home and furnish it with love,
Grow apple trees and honey bees, and snow white turtle doves.
I’d like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony,
I’d like to buy the world a Coke and keep it company.
(Repeat the last two lines, and in the background)
It’s the real thing, Coke is what the world wants today.


162 posted on 11/03/2010 10:12:44 AM PDT by Jaded (Stumbling blocks ALL AROUND, some of them camouflaged well. My toes hurt, but I got past them.)
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To: Judith Anne

This was an old thread that was resurrected. I really need to read dates.


163 posted on 11/03/2010 12:01:59 PM PDT by Jaded (Stumbling blocks ALL AROUND, some of them camouflaged well. My toes hurt, but I got past them.)
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To: bogusname
Did the Catholic Church Give Us the Bible?

Yup.

164 posted on 11/03/2010 2:44:24 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Carthago Delenda Est..)
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To: Natural Law
O sola mio, soylent green, so long Salvation................

Let me get this straight: you actually believe that those five tenants will damn someone?

166 posted on 11/04/2010 8:02:47 PM PDT by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: Señor Zorro
"Let me get this straight: you actually believe that those five tenants will damn someone?"

No, its what they leave out that will. Salvation requires works and faith.

167 posted on 11/04/2010 8:08:25 PM PDT by Natural Law ("opera Christi non deficiunt, sed proficiunt")
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To: Natural Law
No, its what they leave out that will. Salvation requires works and faith.

Works flow from faith and salvation is of faith alone.

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do." Ephesians 2:8-9.

Note that works are not disregarded, but that salvation comes only by faith.

"Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God." Romans 5:1-2.

Note that we are justified by faith, not by faith and works. For more detail, see Romans 4 and the discussion of how Abraham was saved by faith, not works.

"This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." Romans 3:22-24.

And what did Paul say to the jailer, when asked about salvation? "They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved—you and your household.” Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all the others in his house." Acts 16:31. Not a mention of works--just faith.

"Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”" John 6:28-29.

It is this very teaching Roman Catholic Church that has put so very many souls in danger of damnation. It convinces the hearer that faith is not enough to save (for that is what it preaches), and that one's works must make up the difference. But the sensitive soul will reach the right conclusion, that their works are far too puny to contribute and it undermines their faith and salvation.If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

It will not go well for him that teaches salvation, even in part, by works. As Jesus said: "If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." Matthew 18:6.

168 posted on 11/04/2010 9:11:38 PM PDT by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: Señor Zorro
"It is this very teaching Roman Catholic Church that has put so very many souls in danger of damnation."

Sorry my FRiend but we are going to have to agree to disagree. I believe that Salvation is found in the Gospels and the actual Words of Christ. The majority of your citations are from the works of St. Paul. His mission was not to reveal a new Gospel or even revise or redact the Words of Christ, but to spread them and explain them As such they must be interpreted in the context of the Synoptic Gospels, not the other way around.

169 posted on 11/04/2010 9:41:17 PM PDT by Natural Law ("opera Christi non deficiunt, sed proficiunt")
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To: AlaninSA; Alex Murphy; Salvation

I pray you are doing well. Hopefully more Roman Catholics will come to the truth like you did.


170 posted on 11/18/2014 7:09:46 AM PST by Gamecock (USA, Ret. 27 years.)
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