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WHO REALLY IS 'ANTI-CATHOLIC?'
Alpha and Omega Ministries ^ | 1-23-10 | James Swan

Posted on 02/24/2010 9:36:26 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg

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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I am very well, thank you, how about you?


801 posted on 02/25/2010 12:49:49 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Petronski
Anti-Catholic bigotry has nothing to do with Romanism.

It's about hatred of the Catholic Church, not Romanism.

And that's a bad thing???

I don't know that I ever said I hate the Catholic church and I know I've never said I hate Catholic people, because I don't...There are lots of Christians who are former Catholics...

A few of you are trying to get the maximum mileage out of this 'bigotry' phrase...Bigotry if usually connected to racism and you're trying to attach the word to the millions of us who biblically see your religion as the door to outer darkness...

Calling people bigots looks like a last ditch attempt to defend your views when all else has failed...

The scriptures warn us of the religion you follow and yes, in the book of Revelation as well...I couldn't be happier if you all turned from that false religion and it's idols and came to Jesus alone...If that makes me a bigot (which it doesn't), I'll wear the badge, but proudly...

In the mean time, y'all are starting to sound like a bunch of little Jesse Jacksons and his crew...

802 posted on 02/25/2010 12:52:09 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Judith Anne

“I wonder if the anti-Catholic bigots’ purpose is to make the open threads so unpleasant for Catholics that we no longer participate. That way, they could have a nearly perfect Amen chorus, congratulating one another on how Christian they are.

I’m really angry about this. Completely sick of it. It’s not a game, and these aren’t jokes.

This is a very small segment of FR, slinging mud at a very large segment of FR, and furthermore doing it in the name of God.

Are there people who think FREE REPUBLIC is an anti-Catholic hate site? If they run across a thread like this, why wouldn’t they? I can’t see any reason they would be attracted to FR, can you? Putting up with this junk is something NO Christian should have to do, yet DAILY, even during our holy season of LENT, our Church is attacked.

This is not reasonable. Not humorous. Not interesting. Not conservative. Not enjoyable.

In the name of Jesus Christ, Risen Son of the Living God, I rebuke the anti-Catholic bigots of Free Republic. Shame on you all, in Christ’s Most Holy Name.”

Well stated, and perfectly true.

It is a disgrace to FR that they allow this to go on.

However, they always have, and they have always taken the side of the protestants.


803 posted on 02/25/2010 1:12:25 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Iscool; the_conscience; Quix; wmfights; editor-surveyor; UriÂ’el-2012; RnMomof7
soundlike Jesse Jackson and his crew

but if there are any black religious bigots here, join us in the azalea patch, wear Pink


804 posted on 02/25/2010 1:13:20 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
WHO REALLY IS 'ANTI-CATHOLIC?'

I am. There are some things about the religion I am "anti". Am I supposed to be ashamed of that? :-)

805 posted on 02/25/2010 1:13:46 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Iscool

“I don’t know that I ever said I hate the Catholic church”

You don’t have to. Your actions make it abundantly clear.

“There are lots of Christians who are former Catholics...”

Not nearly as many as there are former protestants who have come home to the Church.

“A few of you are trying to get the maximum mileage out of this ‘bigotry’ phrase...Bigotry if usually connected to racism”

You know, history predates the week before last.

Religious bigotry has a long, foul history. The KKK was more active against Catholics than blacks in many times and places. Catholics were discriminated against in hiring and admission to educational institutions during my lifetime. And, of course, those of the Jewish persuasion have endured a great deal of exactly the sort of religious bigotry in which you deal.

“and you’re trying to attach the word to the millions of us who biblically see your religion as the door to outer darkness...”

No, it is not your theological errors that we object to. It is your constant drumroll of bigoted rhetoric.

How many articles have been posted here lambasting protestantism as “the door to outer darkness” and much, much worse? Don’t bother to look. You know there haven’t been any. We Catholics simply don’t make that sort of attack on other Christians.

FR is one place where a person should be free from that sort of harassment. Does FR believe in freedom of religion, or does it not?

“Calling people bigots looks like a last ditch attempt to defend your views when all else has failed...”

Failed to do what? Silence you? Certainly, every one of your silly attacks has been rebutted right down to the ground time and again.

I’d say rather that it is a last-ditch appeal to FR that they uphold their own standards in the matter of religion.

“The scriptures warn us of the religion you follow and yes, in the book of Revelation as well.”

Silly, silly, silly. An adult should have better manners than to hammer others with nonsense time and time again. Among other things, it’s just plain rude, and something only a bigot would do.

“I couldn’t be happier if you all turned from that false religion and it’s idols and came to Jesus alone.”

And I couldn’t be happier if the scales fell from your eyes and mind and you finally understood the difference between religious art and idols, then returned to the One, Holy, and Apostolic Church. However, I have enough courtesy and common sense to shut up about it once in a while.

“If that makes me a bigot (which it doesn’t), I’ll wear the badge, but proudly...”

Yeah, there’s a sentiment expressed by every bigot, without exception.

“In the mean time, y’all are starting to sound like a bunch of little Jesse Jacksons and his crew...”

My word, you’re adopting the tactics of Alinsy and Ayers. Some years ago I made arguments that there is such a thing as theological leftism, equal to economic and social leftism.

And here it is again.


806 posted on 02/25/2010 1:35:23 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

Thanks, but apparently it’s useless.


807 posted on 02/25/2010 1:50:08 PM PST by Judith Anne (2012 Sarah Palin/Duncan Hunter 2012)
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To: dsc
It is a disgrace to FR that they allow this to go on.

Yes, it is.

808 posted on 02/25/2010 1:51:06 PM PST by Judith Anne (2012 Sarah Palin/Duncan Hunter 2012)
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To: dsc
And I couldn’t be happier if the scales fell from your eyes and mind and you finally understood the difference between religious art and idols, then returned to the One, Holy, and Apostolic Church.

And so then my church is one 'unholy' church disconnected with any Apostles??? What's that make you, a polite bigot???

Your religion is not described in the scriptures as the church Jesus founded...You even claim that scripture is not enough to describe your religion...Your religious tradition fills in the holes and smoothes out the bumps...

There is a Christianity and a church described in the scriptures alone and it clearly ain't yours...You had to create your unbiblical tradition to build your unbiblical religion and then try to get scripture to match up with it, which it doesn't...

And you don't believe an American citizen in America should be able to publically point this out...Your religion has tried (all too often, sucessfully) to silence it's opposition for centuries...And you're still trying...If only you could bring in another Inquisition, eh???

So now you are appealing to the sensitivities of the liberal feel-gooders to turn them against freedom of religion and freedom from religion (yours) and freedom of speech...Well, you are not the first nor will you be the last...

809 posted on 02/25/2010 2:05:46 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: dsc
It is a disgrace to FR that they allow this to go on.

However, they always have, and they have always taken the side of the protestants.

I will defend FR on this and call you out...

First off, YOU are the Bigot for trying so suppress our God given right of FRee Speech...

And FR and Jim Robinson along with the Moderators always strive to take a fair and balanced approach to matters religious...

Your statement is a LIE and is harmful to Free Republic...

810 posted on 02/25/2010 2:14:10 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Judith Anne; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...
It is a disgrace to FR that they allow this to go on.

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NOT AT ALL.

It's called a free exchange of ideas . . .

purportedly amongst reasonable people

with reasonably DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

#################################################

What IS an unmitigated outrageous DISGRACE

is that ANY RELIGIOUS VALUE SYSTEM ON FR

WOULD SELF-RIGHTEOUSLY, ARROGANTLY, HAUGHTILY, !!!!!CONTROL!!!!! PHREAQUEISHLY, TYRANNICALLY, OVERWHELMINGLY HYPOCRITICALLY

!!!!!DEMAND!!!!!

That ALL THE OTHER RELIGIOUS ORIENTATIONS ON FR

KOWTOW MERCILESSLY IN TOTAL SUBMISSION

TO THE Roman Catholic's, Vatican associates, Papists'

--DICTIONARY
--SENSIBILITIES
--!!!!DEMANDS!!!!
--CONSTRUCTIONS ON REALITY AND DISCOURSE
--THIN SKINS

Part of me thinks it's quite fine for you to do so--sooooo relentlessly--even though it's soooooooo brazenly outrageous--it gives the watching world a VIVID VIEW of the rotten core of SOME of the stuff in your bailywick.

However, on days like to day, when y'all's haughtiness rages so overwhelmingly over the top, over the line and off the cliff, it becomes exceedingly tiresome and juvenile to even observe, much less to feel compelled to respond to.

My best exhortation is . . .

Grow up. Most of you are not 2 years old any more.

Get a thicker skin--even if you have to buy it at a leather shop.

OR, follow the RM's and JimRob's exhortations AND STAY OFF THE OPEN THREADS! Which word do you not understand about that?

Sigh.

811 posted on 02/25/2010 2:20:41 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

I’m anti-some components, aspects.

NOT 1005 of the whole thing.

And it gets tiresome to be treated as though I were anti the whole thing.

Thankfully, God knows and His score is the only one that matters eternally.


812 posted on 02/25/2010 2:22:34 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Iscool

INDEED TO THE MAX.


813 posted on 02/25/2010 2:24:45 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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And evidently y’all must love all that or else you’d obey the local authorities and stay well away from the OPEN THREADS.


814 posted on 02/25/2010 2:26:14 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Iscool

Please allow some slight correction:

What’s that make you, a farcically polite, OUTRAGEOUSLY !!!!DEMANDING!!!! insufferably hostile, insufferably ARROGANT bigot???


815 posted on 02/25/2010 2:28:02 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Iscool

If I had the time . . . I believe I could document from any random 3 months postings that routinely, particularly in earlier years but to some degree still . . . for some mystifying reason—even though at least SOME of and certainly the Main RM is exceedingly fair-minded

still . . . somehow . . . the Papists get by a significant margin the overabundance of Grace from the moderators compared to what the Prottys typically get.

We Prottys mostly don’t care. We do chafe a bit when the double standard seems to get extreme with some fill-in mods.

Integrity in fairness is a pretty entrenched conservative value, after all.


816 posted on 02/25/2010 2:31:37 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Iscool
One definition of an anti-Catholic bigot is one who displays a pattern of misrepresentation of Catholic beliefs.

If the Catholic Church says Catholics believe X, and someone says X is not true, that's not hatred.

But the anti-Catholic bigot says something like Catholics believe not(X) and a Catholic who denies is lying.

817 posted on 02/25/2010 3:03:38 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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And so then my church is one 'unholy' church disconnected with any Apostles?

That's what they want you to believe, that one day you found a bible, picked it up and started interpreting it for yourself. Yet, Romans 10:

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.

and we are among those at the ends of the earth to whom the gospel is preached, and hearing, we believed.

There is no other way for us to have received the word of Christ except it has come down to us out of the Great Commission.

Yet, scratch Catholic doctrine and they will assert only they (some sort of elect) born into a belief, who for the most part never became born again, possibly do not even know what that is, never heard the gospel preached and subsequently believed it, preferring instead the words of the catechism handed out to them at a young age to the truth of the bible.

And scratch some more, and you will probably find that they think that the Roman Catholic church only contains all the believers drawn out of all the nations of the earth, found in the Book of Revelation.

Your Apostle is inferior to their Apostle, you are only an unpedigreed mutt, they have papers don'tcha see--- some kind of imaginary relationship from Peter to the Pontifex Maximus of the present day, give or take a 400 year gap in there.

You can't prove that your ordained pastor is any good at all, he doesn't have a big long genealogy which he made up to impress you. All he has is the word of Christ. If he didn't you would not have been convicted of your sins and become a Christian. The only proof he has is you. Somehow I think it will hold up in God's court.

Furthermore, since infant baptism gives them all, including the Hitlers, the serial killers, all wicked rulers in high places found among them, the power of the Holy Spirit will take them all to heaven, because after all, they are in the church

You however, belong to a defective sect, a church of one, only able to rely on the word of God and the HS that you received at your conversion.

818 posted on 02/25/2010 3:53:32 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings
...some kind of imaginary relationship from Peter to the Pontifex Maximus of the present day, give or take a 400 year gap in there.

LOL

Now you're just making stuff up.

819 posted on 02/25/2010 3:59:36 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: 1000 silverlings

I AM A CHILD OF THE KING. I DON’T CARE WHAT THEY THINK.


820 posted on 02/25/2010 4:15:18 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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