To: roamer_1; xone
But there are also insurmountable dichotomies which can be listed, which show them to be separate.
And yet, they CANNOT be separate because we believe that God is ONE. We also believe that Jesus was God. And we believe that they were separate "somethings":) --> you cannot put those 3 beliefs together without the idea of the Trinity.
Uri's view simplifies this (please correct me if I am wrong, Uri) as he believes that Jesus and the Father are one being, not separate and that the Holy Spirit is not a separate being.
There are also passages which indicate hierarchy within the Godhead... And the Trinitarian model does not sufficiently explain these discrepancies.
The Trinitarian model considers that we have ONE God and The Father is God and Jesus is God and The Holy Spirit is God. These are three hypostases
948 posted on
02/25/2010 11:38:16 PM PST by
Cronos
(Philipp2:12, 2Cor5:10, Rom2:6, Matt7:21, Matt22:14, Lu12:42-46,John15:1-10,Rev2:4-5,Rev22:19)
To: Cronos; UriÂ’el-2012; xone
And yet, they CANNOT be separate because we believe that God is ONE. We also believe that Jesus was God. And we believe that they were separate "somethings":) --> you cannot put those 3 beliefs together without the idea of the Trinity.And yet, they CANNOT be One, because they are often separate. And Christ functions under the will of the Father, implying hierarchy. Many views can be legitimate, according to belief.
But I don't CARE what you believe. I care about what you can prove. If it cannot be proven, how can one interpretation be of any use against the other?
Uri's view simplifies this (please correct me if I am wrong, Uri) as he believes that Jesus and the Father are one being, not separate and that the Holy Spirit is not a separate being.
Simple things don't break.
But I would criticize UriÂel-2012 as well, if he believes his concept of God to be precisely correct, exclusive, and superior.
I would deny ANYONE who says their particular belief is wholly provable upon the Word, because it simply is *not.* We cannot begin to fathom God, nor is the Godhead particularly defined - So *NO ONE* can claim to know, to the exclusion of all others.
It_Is_A_Mystery. Yet to be revealed.
1,016 posted on
02/26/2010 1:01:04 AM PST by
roamer_1
(Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
To: Cronos
And yet, they CANNOT be separate because we believe that God is ONE. We also believe that Jesus was God. And we believe that they were separate "somethings":)That proves again that your religion still doesn't have a clue about the Trinity...Your vicar of Christ doesn't even understand the Trinity...And you guys claim you discovered It...
Jesus is still separate from God...As is the Holy Spirit...
The Holy Spirit is here, on earth, in the bodies of men/women...Jesus and God are in Heaven...
If you study the scriptures, you know it's in there...Problem is again, you just don't believe God...
1,030 posted on
02/26/2010 5:31:07 AM PST by
Iscool
(I don't understand all that I know...)
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