Two Fathers [Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp of Smyrna]

Standing on My Head ^ | 2/25/10 | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

[Alamo-Girl]

As I stated, my remark deals with the color extremes of black and white. It has nothing whatsoever to do with race.

[Petronski]

Wait--the color extremes of black and white have nothing whatsoever to do with race?

Really?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Amen! It's hard to top John as the most eloquent of all the Gospel writers. He so clearly delineated the fact that there is the natural world and the spiritual world; the natural man and the spiritual man. Black/white.

"And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life." -- 1 John 5:19-20

[Religion Moderator]

The reputation was Pope Benedict's father was not issue on this thread. You raised the issue not once but five times. That is clearly trouble-making.

Leave the thread.

[marshmallow]

I understand the definition of the bride of Christ. I deny that description fits the Roman Catholic church

Then read Ignatius and Polycarp!

No wait, you don't accept them do you?

Let me make a list.

There's the books of the Old Testament which are missing from your Bible. You tossed those. Then there's some books in the New Testament that Luther didn't like such as Revelation, Jude, James.......was Peter amongst them too? Then there's the Church fathers such as Ignatius and Polycarp which are waved off, similarly.

Do we see a pattern here...........LOL!!

[Dr. Eckleburg]

And according to the word of God, who has the most problem with those few lines?

"The unlearned and the unstable."

Pray to receive the faith of a child, Marshmallow.

"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36

[Alamo-Girl]

Indeed. Thank you for that beautiful passage from Scripture, dear sister in Christ!

[Religion Moderator]

Do not ping or mention a poster who has been instructed to leave the thread.

[marshmallow]

First of all, why are you putting "easy" in quotes? I didn't say the word "easy."

So is it or isn't it easy?

I said "children understand the Gospel." Do you deny this?

I love it when you start to dance around words.

"Children understand the Gospel" is like saying "string is long".

Here, let me try and help.

Are you saying all children understand all the Gospel?

Or are you saying "children can understand the Gospel"? Most certainly they can.

That is quite a different thing from saying that Jesus entrusted the deposit of faith to children, though, right? It's also quite different from saying that children are authorities on Scripture. I can understand Russian but I'm not the ultimate authority on Russian grammar. I'm not the infallible arbiter of the language.

They're two different things. You wouldn't want us confused now, would you?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Thanks, but I'll stick with the sufficiency of Scripture.

"And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not." -- Isaiah 58:11

[Dr. Eckleburg]

You wouldn't want us confused now, would you?

My desire has nothing to do with your confusion.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Sorry. I didn’t see that post.

[johngrace]

Convoluted logic

[Dutchboy88]

"Some say? We're led to believe they have notarized statements,certified copies of HS transfusions, not hearsay."

You can bet who the "some" are. Rome is the most self-authenticating gang of power mongers in the history of the world. Who else but these self-appointed cultists has claimed ascendancy to the throne of God on earth, and killed those who disagree? We call on Rome to repent...if it can.

[Erskine Childers]

Polycarp was a disciple of John the Evangelist. This according to Irenaeus, so we have it on good authority. It makes sense - their lives overlapped (John would have been an old man while Polycarp was a young man) and they were in the same part of the world (what is now Izmir, Turkey).

So by all means we should listen to Polycarp and take his writings seriously to heart, as his writings breath the spirit of the Disciple whom Jesus Loved.

[wmfights]

Wrong. He knew Peter and probably John and Paul personally.

So what.

I don't believe any RC's claim that these early theologians writings were "God Breathed". Their commentaries may be insightful and interesting, but no more so than any theologians who have written on Scripture.

Proximity does not guarantee truth. Judas walked the earth with Jesus and he sure didn't get it right.