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To: Mr Rogers; blue-duncan; Forest Keeper; HarleyD; P-Marlowe; raynearhood; xzins; the_conscience; ...
So the one who believes and accepts his offer of salvation is given life, while the one who refuses remains alienated, with condemnation waiting for him.

Again. For the umpteenth time, NO ONE disagrees with that Scriptural truth.

We are all deserving condemnation. None of us has any merit that requires God to accept us. But God came and paid the price, and chooses to offer life to any who believe in Him.

So if "none of us has any merit" then where does our ability to trust God and believe in Him come from?

Arminianism is semi-Pelagianism, short and not-so-sweet. And as we see from your words, it's self-contradictory.

THE PELAGIAN CAPTIVITY OF THE CHURCH
This one by McMahon)

757 posted on 03/09/2010 10:05:42 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

What I said was, “None of us has any merit that requires God to accept us.” And we don’t.

But God loves us...that pesky “For God so loved the world” phrase that Calvinists ignore. And in his grace and mercy, he has made a way for us to be saved. All we need do is say yes.

Saying yes is not a work requiring God’s acceptance, but God has said he will do so. So it is all about who God is and what God has decided - including his decision to give a choice to men without any future.


758 posted on 03/09/2010 11:28:13 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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“For the umpteenth time, NO ONE disagrees with that Scriptural truth.”

Actually, you have. I wrote, “the one who believes and accepts his offer of salvation is given life”, while you have argued we are given life (in what Wayne Grudem calls a “secret act of God”) and then are given faith as a gift.

If you agree with me - that “the one who believes and accepts his offer of salvation is given life” - then you are now at least mostly Arminian. Congratulations on your conversion! See here:

http://evangelicalarminians.org/Join-the%20Society-of-Evangelical-Arminians


759 posted on 03/09/2010 11:32:05 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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