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To: Edward Watson; colorcountry; Godzilla; reaganaut; greyfoxx39; P-Marlowe; Zakeet; T Minus Four; ...
There is NO biblical teaching about Christ we reject. Not one. And you, as one who supposedly lived as a Mormon for 45 years, SHOULD KNOW that.

1. Edward, since when do Lds in general focus on Jesus unilaterally dying for their personal sins? [Who says “no, He doesn’t” – Lds apostle Jeffrey R. Holland, etc., who makes it all "conditional" -- not unilateral] Biblical verses rejected: 1 John 1:7; 1 John 2:2; 1 Peter 2:24; Heb. 1:3

2. Since when do Lds pray directly to Jesus? Verse rejected: Acts 7:59 (Stephen)

3. Likewise, Lds reject Jesus Christ as Creator of ALL "thrones...principalities, or powers" (Col. 1:16) and "All things came into being through Him [Jesus]; and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being" (John 1:3) by claiming one of those principal powers -- Lucifer/Satan -- was Jesus' "brother" in the pre-existence. (How can THE Creator -- Jesus Christ -- possibly be the spirit-brother of His own creation? Impossible!)

4. Lds reject Jesus Christ being divine from eternity past -- and say instead it was something he had to attain. Edward Watson's Reality check: Mormons flat-out deny the teaching found in John 1:1, 18 and Micah 5:2, because they claim Jesus was part of a past creation process – (obviously if Jesus’ Mormon “father” was once a man, then Jesus was at some point “less” in stature at that “time”) • "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God...the Word became flesh and dwelt among us [Jesus]" (Jn. 1:1,18). • ”But thou, Bethlehem Ephrata, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. (Micah 5:2)

5. Lds reject Jesus Christ as the ONLY begotten son (practical rejection of John 1:14 as uniquely begotten of the Father). [Note: Oh sure, D&C 76:23,25 labels Jesus as the “Only begotten Son” – but sandwiches those verses around v. 24, teaching that “well, no He isn’t”: “That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God.” [I mean if the worlds are full of "begotten sons...unto God", how is Jesus universally unique as "the only" begotten Son? What, by way of Mormon doctrine, makes Him an "only" begotten Son?]

Lds leaders say Jesus, the author of salvation, was a created being of another god – and that He needed to advance to being a "saved being."

6. Lds reject Jehovah is our Elohim, and that the Father is in Jesus Christ, and by teaching that the Son of God was denied the fullness of God “at first” (D&C 93:13-14) in sharp contradiction to the Bible’s teachings that the fullness/volume of the deity resides/resided in Jesus Christ. This is a rejection of…
(a) James 2:19: Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well…” and replaces Him with multiple gods;
(b) Exodus 34:14 – only one God can be worshiped!
(c) Deut. 6:4: Jehovah is our Elohim. Gen. 27:20: “The Jehovah, your Elohim.” Ex. 3:6-7: “I the Jehovah, your Elohim.” (Elohim used to describe the Messiah in Isaiah 9:6 and 40:3). Cf. Jer. 32:18, 27. [Mormons even thereby reject plain Book of Mormon passages as well, such as “Jesus IS THE eternal God” (2 Nephi 26:12) and “Jesus [is] THE VERY GOD! (Mormon 3:21)].
(d) the true union of God the Father and God the Son teaching found in the Bible, and reduces the union between God the Father and God the Son to one a mere will and purpose, when the Bible never limits the union to those terms or descriptors.

7. Lds reject Jesus Christ being the unique and ONLY universal Savior. How? Why?
(a) Brigham Young taught both that Joseph Smith was Jesus’ “co-consenter” as to who would enter eternal life;
and (b) he also taught that many worlds existed – and that “every earth has its redeemer” [meaning other saviors on other planets].
Edward Watson's Reality check: Mormons flat-out deny the teaching found in Acts 4:12 and 1 Tim. 2:5: "There is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved" (Acts 4:12) "For there is one God and one mediator also between God and men: the Man Christ Jesus" (1 Tim. 2:5). [Brigham Young indeed taught other names & other mediators & other redeemers exist!]

8. Lds reject the blood of Christ as being completely "salvific" for the sins of mankind by adding works of the law into the magic Mormon "formula." Lds also reject the cross as the key component of the very gospel. Although I’ve found the word “cross” in the D&C, it isn’t even in the D&C index! It’s missing! Edward Watson's Reality check: Mormons flat-out deny the clear and dominant teaching found in numerous verses. I’ll highlight four verses for brevity sake: "I do not frustrate the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died needlessly" (Gal. 2:21); "For not knowing about God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God" (Romans 10:3); "He saved us not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to his mercy." (Titus 3:5); "For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified" (Heb. 10:14).

445 posted on 03/19/2010 10:29:41 PM PDT by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it.)
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To: Colofornian
Acts 9:5

5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

446 posted on 03/19/2010 11:26:41 PM PDT by JustTheTruth (States Rights: One Way to Help Save Our Freedom.)
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