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To: svcw

It all depends on how it really went down. It just seems doubtful to me that Smith would have fired until he was fired upon. If I’m outnumbered like they were, I’m hoping law enforcement will intervene, so I’m not going to fire except as a last resort, i.e. shots are already being fired in my direction. Liquor could impair judgment of course, I’d be curious to know of any evidence that any of the jailed men were intoxicated.


36 posted on 03/13/2010 10:31:47 PM PST by Texan Tory
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"We are earnestly seeking to explode the vicious principles of Joseph Smith, and those who practice the same abominations and whoredoms; which we verily know are not accordant and consonant with the principles of Jesus Christ and the Apostles; and for that purpose, and with that end in view, with an eye single to the glory of God, we have dared to gird on the armor, and with god at our head, we most solemnly and sincerely declare that the sword of truth shall not depart from the thigh, nor the buckler from the arm, until we can enjoy those glorious privileges which nature's God and our country's laws have guarantied to us--freedom of speech, the liberty of the press, and the right to worship God as seemeth us good.-- "

So much more HERE..............
from the good folks of Nauvoo who were soiled by Joe Smith. And BOY were they rightfully ticked after Joe Smith ordered their printing press destroyed.

Joe Smith was a con man, an arrestee,a fake profit (and false prophet); a chump extraordinairre.

He brought his own brother into harm's way and his brother Hyrum was killed.

Coward Joe tried to escape, was rightfully shot, and fell out a window.

Case closed.

(except Joe still needs to be charged for smugling a gun into a jail).

37 posted on 03/13/2010 10:59:36 PM PST by NoRedTape
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To: Texan Tory
It just seems doubtful to me that Smith would have fired until he was fired upon.

Is there a count of how many slugs were fired into the surrounding door and walls of the jail?

51 posted on 03/14/2010 5:07:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Texan Tory

You maybe correct but where did Smith get the guns? He was in jail.
There would not have been a gun battle if Smith had not had guns.


54 posted on 03/14/2010 5:52:42 AM PDT by svcw (For the last 2000 yrs Christians have been trying to sew up the curtain.)
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To: Texan Tory

I’d be curious to know of any evidence that any of the jailed men were intoxicated.

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There are contemporary accounts by survivors that state that that Smith gave the jailer some money and the jailer delivered alcohol so that ‘their spirits would be lifted’.


67 posted on 03/14/2010 9:45:09 AM PDT by reaganaut ( "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Texan Tory

It just seems doubtful to me that Smith would have fired until he was fired upon.
______________________________________________

Mindreading Joey Smith..

Did you ever know him ???

He died in 1844...

Joey Smith was a conman ands criminal ...he was not just an innocent bystander

Joey Smith was the kind who would fire first...He had a gun smuggled into jail to him...what did he need it if he did not intent to use it ??? Premediatation right there...

He murdered and robbed people and stole their wives and daughters...then played the victim card when they complained or reteliated or protected themselves from him...

That time he was tarred and feathered ???

He had seduced young Nancy Johnson while he was living in the Johnson home...

Worse had been planned for that sexual predator...

There was a doctor there with a very sharp instrument...


71 posted on 03/14/2010 10:49:02 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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