NEW YORK TIMES TARGETS THE POPE AGAIN

Catholic League ^ | March 16, 2010 | William Donohue

[Pope Pius XII]

Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on the latest attack on the pope by the New York Times:

Once upon a time there was a homosexual priest who was accused of molesting boys in Germany. That was 30 years ago. At the approval of Archbishop Joseph Ratzinger (now the pope), he was sent away for therapy and was later reinstated; years later, under a new archbishop, there was another incident and more therapy.

We know this because the New York Times (which does not like to report on molesting rabbis in 2010), told us about this on Saturday in a front-page article. Today, it ran a front-page article on the same story. Was there any difference? Yes. On Saturday, the Times was only able to identify the priest as bearing the initial "H." Today, it has real news: his name is Hullermann. And now "H" has been suspended.

[T Minus Four]

You are the master of your own soul, but have we not all been taught that when someone strikes you on your left cheek to turn and offer them your right?

So by this reasoning, when a priest touches the genitals of one of my little boys, I should turn over another to him?

[Pope Pius XII]

he started it by saying,

“No, it’s because the pope sent a child molester away for therapy instead of removing him from service and when he returned to service he abused yet another child.”

talk about trying to get the Pope condemned and accused.

[Pope Pius XII]

You just love to change the subject don’t you?

[T Minus Four]

Indeed the bishops did cover up for pedophiles. The media however and others included use it to as a way to say that celibacy caused the sex abuse scandal. It didn’t.

No, as I said before, those of us who live in reality know the difference between a diddler and a straight dude with the hots.

It's just that the pedophilia scandal exposed an entire seamy side of the catholic hierarchy, so all aspects are open to scrutiny now.

[FourtySeven]

I agree it’s not a very good analogy but my intent was not to compare the gravity of the two situations. Rather it was to show how, at the time, it was unthinkable to believe that psychiatry could not cure pedophilia.

Clearly it was wrong to put so much faith in psychiatry. No one (at least not me) is saying the bishops didn’t make a huge mistake there.

The point is though, it was an honest mistake, with the best it intentions. It was not some evil conspiracy.

[T Minus Four]

he started it

Does your mommy know you're home from school today?

[T Minus Four]

I think you are projecting. It’s a big word that means, I know you are but what am I, LOL!!!

[Pope Pius XII]

You can criticize you want to, that’s your opinion and your entitled to it. But I gaurantee you, that if you think Church will change her teachings she won’t do it.

[Pope Pius XII]

What the heck, does that have to do with anything?

[T Minus Four]

The point is though, it was an honest mistake,

OK, but you're still not adressing the point that it was a crime which should have been reported and the individuals should have been tried in court. The bishops certainly knew that they were breaking the law by not reporting it.

[Kenny Bunk]

Besides, the Catholic Church was fully aware that the activity was a crime.

Of course, you are correct. However, for 1750 years at least, in one place or another, The HRCC had it's own courts, its own punishments, and yes Virginia, it's own prisons (and death penalty).

So, there IS a long, if not glorious, HRCC tradition of settling this stuff in-house. Doesn't work any more. Doesn't work here. Probably never really worked.

No excuses. mais tout comprendre est tout pardonner.

That's for us. Let the cops and the courts handle the rest, with the disgusting chips falling where they may. When the outhouse explodes, everbody gets covered. HRCC, viewed strictly as an organization, is no more immune to the law than any other.

PS, If I catch a Baptist playing cards, where do I turn him in?

[Pope Pius XII]

Thank you FourtySeven.

[TSgt]

But I gaurantee you, that if you think Church will change her teachings she won’t do it.

Considering the church's history of protecting pedophiles I would expect nothing less.

[T Minus Four]

But I gaurantee you, that if you think Church will change her teachings she won’t do it.

And THAT my FRiend, is exactly why I am no longer a Catholic.

[marajade]

its actually the responsibility of law enforcement

[Enough is ENOUGH]

The NY Times attack on the pope has to be related to the Catholic Church’s stand against abortions which is in opposition to abortion funding in the health care bill.

[Pope Pius XII]

Couldn’t agree more. And that the Church doesn’t approve of same-sex unions.

[T Minus Four]

PP: Dealing with sexual abuse is a responsibility that belongs to the Bishops, not the Vatican.

Sabe: its actually the responsibility of law enforcement

THis is exactly my point

[wmfights]

...in this case, the cover-up is almost more vile than the crime considering who is facilitating the cover-up.

Exactly!

The behavior was not just a "psychological disorder" 50-60 yrs ago. It was and is a CRIME!

Any organization can be infiltrated by sociopaths. It's covering up their CRIMES that makes it so much worse. What happened to the people in authority that did not report the CRIMES to the police. Were they elevated in stature, or were they thrown out and prosecuted for their CRIMES?

How many more suffered because CRIMES were covered up?

[T Minus Four]

Gotta go.