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Can It Be? (Testimony of a former Jehovah's Witness)
CE ^ | April 3, 2010 | Mary Kochan

Posted on 04/03/2010 3:12:52 PM PDT by NYer

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To: plinyelder

You are kidding, right?


101 posted on 04/06/2010 1:52:09 AM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: plinyelder

Do you normally contradict yourself so often?


102 posted on 04/06/2010 1:55:01 AM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: plinyelder

So tell us what is the correct “narrow path”...


103 posted on 04/06/2010 2:17:10 AM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: Agamemnon
You ever notice how cult members are always the ones who “hide” the affiliation in these threads...

Not very well mind you, at least not after a few posts...

104 posted on 04/06/2010 2:21:49 AM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: Theo

One of the first signs of a cult. Focus on minutia...


105 posted on 04/06/2010 2:22:55 AM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: plinyelder; reaganaut
You are a strange one. You speak of a narrow path you won't define but then defend numerous paths and rail against “valid” religions...

Very strange...

106 posted on 04/06/2010 2:25:28 AM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: plinyelder
And of course .. It was the anti Mormon crowd that is partly responsible for the Muslim in the White House.

DO WHAT? What is the bloody name of hades are you babbling about?

107 posted on 04/06/2010 2:27:23 AM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: theBuckwheat

Bless you on this week after Resurrection Day - we celebrate the day when our hope for eternal life, the salvation depicted each year by the Passover, was revealed by the empty tomb, by the risen Savior.


108 posted on 04/06/2010 2:46:29 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIA)
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To: plinyelder; NYer; All

The problem (in this Baptist’s view) is the belief that John 1:1 is true. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

In light of John 3:16 and many other verses that seem to give the minimal standards, I’m not sure about the salvation of people who believe that Jesus is the Son, but not God. I do believe that living in the Light, and understanding our redemption, the plan of reconciliation by God, is easier, and that John considered the Diety of Christ important enough for a couple of letters, other than his gospel.

Thank God, God’s God and can figure it out.


109 posted on 04/06/2010 2:58:30 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIA)
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To: ejonesie22
You ever notice how cult members are always the ones who “hide” the affiliation in these threads...

I smelled him a mile away.

FReegards!


110 posted on 04/06/2010 4:45:24 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Intelligent Design is to evolution what the Swift Boat Vets were to the Kerry campaign)
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To: Agamemnon

It took me a couple of posts, but I was working my way from the middle where I was pinged.


111 posted on 04/06/2010 4:53:19 AM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: plinyelder
And of course .. It was the anti Mormon crowd that is partly responsible for the Muslim in the White House.

Huh?

112 posted on 04/06/2010 6:45:29 AM PDT by svcw (Religion is like giving someone who is dying of thirst mouthwash.)
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To: plinyelder

Sorry about that

Should read Implying not inferring.


113 posted on 04/06/2010 6:50:38 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: plinyelder
"And of course .. It was the anti Mormon crowd that is partly responsible for the Muslim in the White House."

Source with verifiable facts please. Otherwise, it's nothing more than amateurish hyperbole.

114 posted on 04/06/2010 7:03:29 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: svcw

You caught that too huh. I am dying to hear this one...


115 posted on 04/06/2010 7:23:17 AM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: plinyelder; reaganaut; colorcountry
OK, PE, you're confusing. It's obvious you have some religious standards. And it's obvious you concede false religion exists. In post #40, you said: Satans two tools: Having us believe that he doesn’t exist and False Religion.

Now are people supposed to speak out against Satan's false religion or not?

Furthermore, it's also obvious that you have some standards you try to impose upon others...otherwise you never would have said, "need some adjusting my friend" in post #88. Why say that right after you said you were against others who "have this need or desire to Invalidate another's belief" in post #82? So you want to "invalidate" the beliefs people have about cults by "adjusting" them?

And then, further more, you apparently want to "adjust" their beliefs by doing what you say shouldn't be done vs. JWs & others? You're supposedly against "ripping and tearing at another's belief" (#82), but you don't mind ripping and tearing at a person's belief that they are a Christian? (Your comments in posts #82..."you people who call yourselves Christians...only the 'so called' main stream Christians..."). Or apparently you don't mind ripping and tearing at others by name-calling ("piranhas" in post #72) or by implication labeling them a snake (venom is sourced from snakes...post 82).

(Or maybe we all missed Jesus' sermon on the other mount about how calling people "piranhas," "so called Christians," and venom-spewing snakes merged with what you said in post #40: “truly I bear them witness that the have a True love of God" and these labels are in reality endearments of "love"???)

What's "interesting" is that you critique the religious beliefs of others as being "plank-eyed" because of their critiques of the religious beliefs of others! (post #34) And then 16 minutes later, you critique the religious practices of Dr. Kennedy and Dr. Martin as power mongering and money making! (post #35) Boy, do you keep us guessing or what? If JWs are to be "off limits" as you have been preaching, Dr. Kennedy and Dr. Martin are "fair game"???

So inquiring minds want to know: Who "blessed" you with a trump card for critiquing the religious beliefs & practices of others, including critiquing the religious beliefs of others as they critique the religious beliefs of others?
Why is this "job description" something only you have? If others are not allowed to exercise it, who gave you this role?

116 posted on 04/06/2010 7:44:08 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: NYer

Ping


117 posted on 04/06/2010 7:57:35 AM PDT by ziravan (Vote your Revolution.)
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To: NYer

Fascinating read. It made me think of this:

When Hope was not My Due

You are the Maker of all things
The Power of all ends
The Master of all time
The Song the morning star sings

All hope begins in You
All grace is Yours to show
All love is but Your name
By faith Your plans renew

Morning heeds Your order
Dawn is shown its place
Might shakes out the wicked
As morning holds its border

Who am I in all of this
Simply one of billions
Insignificant by compare
A mere drop in life’s abyss

How could I hope for me alone
The stars would stop and tremble
When angels cried as mercy sang
As Perfection’s wounds atone

How precious I must be
In the eyes of the King
That sacrifices all
For the least and least is me

How can I say thank You
When thanks is not enough
He bowed to me when I should bow
He yielded all that I could hope

When hope was not my due

Copyright 2002 Timothy Delasandro


118 posted on 04/06/2010 8:07:33 AM PDT by ziravan (Vote your Revolution.)
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To: reaganaut
Russell new NOTHING about Greek and the JW twisting of scripture is rivaled only by the Mormons.

When my Mormon friends insist that they are Christians because they follow Christ, I ask them if that makes JWs Christians as well. That's company that the Mormons don't want and it is interesting how they try to justify their own inclusion in Christianity while trying to exclude the JWs. I love to point out to the Mormons that foundationally they are a lot closer to fellow Arian JWs than they are to Trinitarian Christians.

119 posted on 04/06/2010 8:07:54 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: CommerceComet

They are much closer. A lot of that has to do with the fact they both come out of a period and area where Campbell’s restorationist movement was prevalent.

Both the LDS and the JW’s are restorationists.


120 posted on 04/06/2010 8:39:02 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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