The ruins of the Reformation and the rubble of the Restoration are very clear. The Anglican Church is finished and any Christians left are crossing the Tiber or heading East. ELCA is merely determining which toilet they are swirling down. The Presbyterians and the Methodists are merely trailing in the Kentucky Derby of self-immolation of formerly Christian denominations. We Catholics remain. Faithful and true to Christ. There are no others.
Scripture is clear;
Yes it is.
the Church is clear.
Yes it is - and clearly *not* aligned with the Scriptures.
Negative. We wrote 'em and we selected 'em and we translated 'em and bring them to all of the heretic, apostate and heathen who variously appreciate them or don't.
Those who reject the Church also reject the Creator of the Church.
You mean Constantine? I have no problem with that, whatsoever.
Jesus Christ Created the Church and the Holy Spirit commissioned it at Pentecost. Your church was created when? By whom? If I recall correctly, it was during the rubble of the Restoration sometime after the year 1900.
You don't get to make it all up as you go along.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Smoke whatever you like in whatever vessel you like. Your claim to Christianity is still wrong. The Bible is clear.
No sophistry here. Sure it is. The Roman church is swimming in it.
Do you have any examples? I cannot think of any at the moment.
I have no doubt most Catholics remain very loyal to Mary.
Pompous NONSENSE.
... and to be expected... The Roman church is all about compromise... and she will increase as she mounts up to ride the beast.
[roamer_1:] Yes it is - and clearly *not* aligned with the Scriptures.
[...] We wrote 'em [...]
GOD wrote them.
and we selected 'em
Hardly. the selection of the canon was a very organic process. Your seal upon them means nothing.
and we translated 'em and bring them to all of the heretic, apostate and heathen who variously appreciate them or don't.
Bah. The lion's share of the time, the Roman Church fought to keep the Word from being read or owned in the vulgar tongue - and that evidence ABOUNDS.
God went Open Source (as was His intent all along) - you don't have authority over the Word anymore.
Jesus Christ Created the Church and the Holy Spirit commissioned it at Pentecost.
While true, that has little to do with the Roman Church.
Your church was created when? By whom? If I recall correctly, it was during the rubble of the Restoration sometime after the year 1900.
Then you recall incorrectly - I follow Christ... as I ought.
What is particularly foolish is your insistence that your history (built upon fallacy and forgery) has anything to do with truth. It is a specious argument.
[roamer_1:] No sophistry here. Sure it is. The Roman church is swimming in it.
Do you have any examples? I cannot think of any at the moment.
The OP is a perfect example. Bible Christians legitimately question The Roman position on Mary - Rightly so, as it cannot be found within Scripture... Unless one is a Roman Catholic, whereupon one seems to think they have the right to twist the scripture to wring out whatever wee bit of evidence there is - In a fashion which would make a gnostic blush.
Since the evidence is non-existent, RC's fall back on the idea that Bible Christians are ignorant, as this thread, and your own posts, prove.
But that is by no means the end of it... Every claim of superiority is based upon fantasy at best, and forgery and conceit at worst.