Posted on 04/09/2010 7:24:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Cathlci=Catholic
But that says “2-3%”, not “10%”, as you falsely stated.
Plus, right after that quote it notes that they can’t really know, because they didn’t really collect information. AND, as you noted elsewhere, there is a difference between true pedophilia and having sex with minors, but there’s no indication that the “protestant figures” you cite with no evidence make that distinction.
We all know that the real issue with the Catholic Priest problem wasn’t the pedophilia or sex with boys, it was the coverup.
No argument from me. I am a convert from an evangelical church. I get really tired of the Catholic bashing from Protestants. We’re all in one boat together and life is too short to engage in this bickering.
I didn’t like it before I became Catholic, and I don’t like it now. The reality is sin afflicts us all.
I personally don’t consider them Christian anymore. They are no different than the Unitarians.
Again, your first source compares the misnamed pedophilia as “2-3%” for protestant, and “.2-1.7%” for catholics.
Your 10% pedophilia number was a mistake in reading on your part.
The ranges are in the guessed values, and no evidence is given to support any particular value in the range, so even by the biased Catholic source, it could be that the Protestant number is 2%, and the Catholic number is 1.7%, hardly a difference.
And remember, we KNOW who the “Catholic Church” is, they are a well-defined, heirarchical, highly controlled church structure, with Priests who are supposedly highly vetted and monitored.
Among “protestant churches” are hundreds of denominations and independent groups, some KNOWN to not really be particularly faithful to the teachings of the Bible, or even Christian for that matter (for example, unitarian universalists are considered “protestant”).
Let’s see a comparison between the Catholic Church, and the Presbyterian-PCA church. I don’t think you’d like that one. Trying to defend your specific church by smearing MY specific church by citing statistics that are likely driven by churches I have nothing to do with is silly.
You put the “i received an e-mail” in your comment, and you used it to draw a conclusion that we presume was yours. We don’t blame people for what is in articles they quote, but we certainly blame people for the conclusions they reach in their comments.
Are you referring to the "alter Christus" or the fact that the article said the problem was that they were "predatory gay men"?
If you quote a news source we can check that claims that the leadership of any of OUR specific denominations has been covering up homosexual sex with minors by OUR priests, then you will be treating us “the same way”.
Quoting anonymous emails or statistics from articles that make general claims about unnamed surveys of questionable veracity is hardly the same things as the DOCUMENTED CASES of priestly abuse and the coverup thereof.
You did understand what they said, right? You are allowed to put YOUR OWN INTERPRETATION of the article in a parenthetical statement after the title.
But you have claimed that what you put in the parenthesis is NOT your interpretation.
To your claim:
“The Catholics, OTOH, claim that they are “other Christs” here on earth”
That sounds more like something your Church taugth you about what Catholic’s believe which 99% of the time is nothing but something that has been made up.
They are NOT part of the denomination known as “The Reformed Church in America”. They claim to follow reformed theology, but in their “who are we”, they clearly state they don’t believe in a literal interpretation of Scriptures. They are a feel-good quasi-christian group.
This is part of the problem with you trying to compare “protestant” with “Catholic”. The Catholic Church is an actual denomination, with rules and regulations, that can be held responsible for it’s actions.
“protestant” is the name given to thousands of different organizations that have no control over each other. My church is considered Protestant, but it is actually Presbyterian Church in America, Potomac Presbytery. That is the group I am accountable to, and the organization for which I should be judged.
Tarring me with something that the Unitarian Universalists do would be as rational as me blaming the Catholic Church for something done by the Russian Orthodox church.
I said this :
my interpretation is not even inaccurate. The article IS telling us that there are more percentage of cases of Pedophilia among Protestants ( 2 to 3 percent ) than Catholics ( 1.7% ).
Did I mistakenly read it ? Go to this website for instance:
http://www.aboutcatholics.com/faith_beliefs/church_holy/
Here is the quote:
“1.7% of Catholic priests have been found guilty of pedophilia. This number compares to about 3% of the general public and an alarming figure of nearly 10% among protestant ministers.*”
*This according to Penn State historian Phillip Jenkins.
NOTE: I think they’re misquoting Mr. Jenkins here, but I cite the above website to inform you that I was SENT an e-mail that used Jenkins as their source.
I could quote from an article that claims the Pope is possessed by demons. Why would I do that if I weren’t trying to make some kind of point?
I can’t read your mind but I am the most infallible interpreter of my own motivations and it is this -— TO FIND REASONABLE REFUTATIONS if the claims are found to be inaccurate.
I claim you whole purpose in this is to troll for a fight. Refute that.
Since parenthetical phrases in titles are the opinion of the poster, I presume that “Pedophilia occurs more frequently in Protestant Churches” is your conclusion.
“Obviously, the Pope of Benedict, is possessed.”
http://blogwonks.com/2010/03/29/pope-benedict-and-the-demons-of-politico/
You draw your own conclusion.
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