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To: redgolum
Well, since they much of their theology is so wacky, at times I would not count them as Christian :)

But in 1550, the CofE was as Catholic as any Catholic diocese. Now, they are swirling down the toilet. The obvious cause is the removal of the Church as the director of doctrine, and the substitution of the English monarch.

The fact is that there were many cases of priests having improper conduct with young males (and a few with women). There were some who appear to have been protected by various members of the Catholic hierarchy. Most Catholics, and just about all on FR, will agree to that.

Agreed.

As to what the current Pope is doing or has done to remedy that, by all accounts he is not going very easy on the poofters. In fact, if the UK does grab him this fall, I suspect that Hate Speech (or the equivalent) will be one of the charges.

Interesting point. I agree with this also.

The other complicating issue is that the Vatican said that the Pope, as a head of state, is granted Sovereign immunity. Which he is, as the head of the Vatican. But that begs the question if his authority over the Catholic Church is theological, or for lack of a better term, regal. Is the Catholic Church a State, or a corporation, or a religion.

All of the above. That's part of the overall confusion by many people. They keep putting different aspects of the Church in the wrong categories.

Sorry for the rant. This is proof why you should never drink with a lawyer.

Lawyers are proof that serial killers are not the dregs of humanity. God made snakes prior to making lawyers just for the practice. Vultures don't eat lawyers because of the taste. You can tell if it's really cold out when lawyers have their hands in their own pockets. Lawyers are not allowed on many beaches because cats keep trying to bury them in the sand. The best way to get a lawyer out of a tree is to cut the rope. The brown and black accessory that looks best on a lawyer is a Dobermann Pinscher.

Thank you for the opportunity to contribute to the wealth and hellfare of lawyers in this great land of ours. I haven't had as much fun since I paid off my divorce lawyer with the last of my worldly possessions... :)

82 posted on 04/10/2010 6:49:41 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Kolokotronis; Forest Keeper

Lawyer joke ping.


83 posted on 04/10/2010 7:52:10 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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