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Catholic Church Facilitates Foreign Invasion
Right Side News ^ | 29 April 2010 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 04/29/2010 10:34:06 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

The controversy over Arizona's immigration law should be used to highlight the shameful role of the Roman Catholic Church in facilitating the foreign invasion of the U.S.

This scandal deserves as much attention as the seemingly never-ending cases of sexual child abuse involving priests.

In a major embarrassment for followers of the U.S. Catholic Church, Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles compared Arizona's new law to "German Nazi and Russian Communist techniques." He actually wrote this on his personal blog, under the headline, "Arizona's Dreadful Anti-Immigrant Law."

Mahony is described by the Los Angeles Times as "a nationally influential figure who heads the nation's largest Roman Catholic archdiocese with 4.3 million members." In other words, he is not a fringe player. Indeed, he is typical of Catholic Church leaders.

Why do Catholic officials want to encourage illegal immigration? The answer is quite simple. Most of the illegal aliens are Catholics. Plus, the church makes lots of government money by hosting and serving the immigrants.  

These facts are considered by some to be anti-Catholic, which is why you seldom read or hear about them in the major media. But the fact is that millions of American Catholics are disgusted and outraged by the Catholic hierarchy's statements and antics on this issue. They are organizing across the country.     

James Russell, a Catholic who serves as National Secretary of Catholics for a Moral Immigration Policy, tells the story of betrayal of America by the Catholic Bishops in the book, Breach of Faith: American Churches and the Immigration Crisis.

In a major decision this week, the Supreme Court ruled that a Christian cross could remain on public land, despite the so-called separation of church and state. It has become a national controversy. But where is the debate or discussion over the Catholic Bishops getting $51 million a year from the government? A lot of that money is being used to cater to immigrants, legal and illegal. These immigrants, in turn, go to church, contribute to the collection plate, and vote the way the liberal priests and bishops dictate.

In short, the evidence shows that the Catholic Church hierarchy has become an agent of the government in facilitating a foreign invasion of the United States. There is no other way to describe it.

This explosive story of scandal and corruption must be told because "comprehensive immigration reform" cannot be defeated unless the role of the Catholic Church is exposed and addressed.

If you are in the market for more outrageous statements from Catholic officials, take a look at Russell's book, Breach of Faith. He notes that Cardinal Edward Egan of New York and Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of Brooklyn supported and addressed a 2003 illegal alien "Freedom Riders" rally in Flushing Meadows Park in New York, "not far from the site where five illegal aliens had assaulted a woman and her boyfriend, then dragged her to a makeshift hut in the vicinity of Shea Stadium, where they repeatedly raped her and nearly beat her to death."

Russell formed the group, Catholics for a Moral Immigration Policy, in order to expose the Mahony-type characters in the church and church institutions.  

In another book, On the Immorality of Illegal Immigration, also distributed by Catholics for a Moral Immigration Policy, Father Patrick Bascio notes that an estimated 70,000 criminal gang members have infiltrated U.S. cities. His book charges that Catholic Church leaders have aided and abetted "all the evils connected with illegal immigration" and have become corrupted in the process.

In going into detail about Catholic Church corruption on the immigration issue, Russell notes that the Catholic Campaign for Human Development (CCHD) promotes amnesty for illegal aliens through its funding of such groups as ACORN and the Catholic Legal Immigration Network (CLINIC).  The CCHD is funded by ordinary parishioners asked to provide money to assist the poor.

He says one of many American Catholic Bishops who have "achieved notoriety" for pro-immigration activism is Gerald F. Kicanas of Tucson, Arizona, who solicits donations of cash and first-aid items for illegal aliens making their way into Arizona.

So the Catholic Church in Arizona has aided and abetted the problem that the citizens of Arizona, through their elected representatives, have now decided to confront. It is a major breakthrough.  

Russell traces the church's involvement in the entry of illegal aliens into the U.S. to the Marxist-oriented "liberation theology" movement, also known as "social justice." Russell particularly faults Jesuit Catholic institutions such as Georgetown University for adopting this approach and indoctrinating students to be in favor of liberalized immigration policies.

Russell is honest about the motivation behind these efforts, noting that the Catholic Bishops and their agencies, some which get government money to provide services to illegal aliens, "benefit from immigration by increasing the number of Catholics in the United States."

He cites figures that most of the new immigrants to the United States are Catholics coming from Latin America.

He goes on, "When Catholic immigrants become naturalized, they may vote for candidates who support church policies." What's more, he writes, "The network of Catholic agencies relies on high rates of immigrants in need of social services to maintain government funding."

Many Americans don't realize that the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), which receives a federal tax exemption as a non-profit entity, gets one-third of its annual $146 million budget from the government.

"The USCCB is generally recognized as the single most active and most influential religious force for liberalization of American immigration policy, as well as for refugee resettlement, and hence merits our scrutiny," Russell writes.

Pastor Ralph Ovadal of Pilgrims Covenant Church in Monroe, Wisconsin, is also providing that scrutiny. Ovadal has been pointing out for years "that the Roman Catholic Church is aiding and abetting the criminal invasion of America from Mexico because the illegals are almost all Roman Catholics."

Ovadal says the leadership of the Roman Catholic Church is "looking to turn America, founded and still a Protestant country, into a Roman Catholic country."

These comments may sound harsh, but when a Catholic writer such as James Russell documents most of the information that lies behind such tough statements, one has to pay serious attention.

If anything, Russell writes, the position of the USCCB over the years has become more radical, to the point where the Bishops are emphasizing that amnesty for illegals-they call it "legalization"-has to be a "central component" of any federal immigration proposal.

Russell makes the case that current religious attitudes toward immigration "did not evolve slowly and authentically from traditional Christianity, but rather have been assiduously advanced by radical intellectuals, both Protestant and Catholic, whose goals have been primarily political, and have run counter to the best interests of the vast majority of native-born American citizens."

The hijacking of the Catholic Church by Marxist elements is now front and center. Who in the major media has the courage and guts to write about it?


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In another book, On the Immorality of Illegal Immigration, also distributed by Catholics for a Moral Immigration Policy, Father Patrick Bascio notes that an estimated 70,000 criminal gang members have infiltrated U.S. cities. His book charges that Catholic Church leaders have aided and abetted "all the evils connected with illegal immigration" and have become corrupted in the process....

....Russell is honest about the motivation behind these efforts, noting that the Catholic Bishops and their agencies, some which get government money to provide services to illegal aliens, "benefit from immigration by increasing the number of Catholics in the United States."

He goes on, "When Catholic immigrants become naturalized, they may vote for candidates who support church policies." What's more, he writes, "The network of Catholic agencies relies on high rates of immigrants in need of social services to maintain government funding."

Many Americans don't realize that the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), which receives a federal tax exemption as a non-profit entity, gets one-third of its annual $146 million budget from the government....

1 posted on 04/29/2010 10:34:06 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Bump for reference.


2 posted on 04/29/2010 10:40:53 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Alex Murphy
In other words, he is not a fringe player. Indeed, he is typical of Catholic Church leaders.

Ummm ... NOT. The Holy See has already begun the process of easing him out. He's more typical of "Catholic Church leaders the LA Times likes".

When bishops start talking about specific policies instead of general principles of justice and charity, they often overstep their bounds.

"Treat the alien and soujourner with kindness" is straight out of the Bible. "Let as many aliens and sojourners come as want to, and give them loads of free social services paid for by the law-abiding" is not.

3 posted on 04/29/2010 11:00:02 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: Campion
Ummm ... NOT. The Holy See has already begun the process of easing him out.

Exactly! Like Cardinal Law, etc...
4 posted on 04/29/2010 11:03:16 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Campion

Well, then, what is the position of Mahoney’s Mexican replacement, Gomez, upon illegal immigration and illegal aliens?


5 posted on 04/29/2010 11:06:04 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Campion

Another...

Bishop Wenski: Illegal immigration is like a parking ticket
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/04/bishop-wenskiillegal-immigrati.html


6 posted on 04/29/2010 11:06:24 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Campion

Thank you.

And we don’t need to be giving ammunition to the Commies and fellow travellers.


7 posted on 04/29/2010 11:07:18 AM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: Campion

And another...

Arizona’s Anti-Immigration Law: Hurting Immigrants and Criminalizing Compassion - Rt. Rev. Kirk Stevan Smith
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rt-rev-kirk-stevan-smith/arizonas-anti-immigration_b_554754.html


8 posted on 04/29/2010 11:10:08 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Alex Murphy
Many will dismiss the contentions of the writer as the acts of a minority in the Church.

What they will not address is the fact the Church is systematically advocating, encouraging and facilitating illegal immigration into the US.

SYSTEMATICALLY.

9 posted on 04/29/2010 11:13:09 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: Alex Murphy
With regard to motive, I doubt very much the liberal Bishops care what religion illegals are. I think they are just devout leftists, especially at USCCB. Most senior churchmen have been educated in liberal seminaries, and are more Marxists than anything. USCCB has been a plaything of the Left from day one.

Mexico is a Marxist state that has persecuted the Church bitterly for about a century. Mexicans know little formal religion, and if I recall correctly, Mexican immigrants have a remarkably high proportion of leaving the Church.

Motive is the same as all the other leftists: bring like-thinking illegals in to dilute and undermine the “devil” right wing America.

10 posted on 04/29/2010 11:13:17 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: TSgt
"Rt Rev. Kirk Stevan Smith"

Episcopalian, not Catholic. Not our fault.

11 posted on 04/29/2010 11:17:24 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: Campion
The usual list of spiritual suspects needs to be worrying about the immigration policies for entrance into eternal life and how they will be judged in rendering mercy to those seeking asylum in this country. Save for the Indians, we are all products of fairly recent immigration. Perhaps these people would prefer the followers of Mohamed to be entering in the same numbers as the Hispanics.
12 posted on 04/29/2010 11:17:32 AM PDT by bronx2
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To: Campion
This is getting old, it is obvious the Vatican/Catholic Church authorities are NOT on the side of the patriots, but on the side of the left.

No more excuses, misinterpretations, blaming the press, miscommunications, ect.

From siding with environmentalists, the Notre Dame invitation, the support of the Healthcare takeover, and on and on.

Their actions are very clear now.

13 posted on 04/29/2010 11:19:00 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Campion

Oh’ sorry! I was mistaken by ONE!

It’s systemic, not the thoughts of a rogue Cardinal.


14 posted on 04/29/2010 11:19:33 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: TSgt
Like Cardinal Law

No, Mahony will be permitted to stay until his 75th birthday.

But his replacement is already named, meaning that M will be gone the next day.

15 posted on 04/29/2010 11:20:00 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: roses of sharon

Your observation, though factual and correct, will earn you the title anti-Catholic on FR.


16 posted on 04/29/2010 11:20:30 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Campion

Apologies again!

Pedophile protectors can stay, immigration reform types must go.

I see!


17 posted on 04/29/2010 11:21:27 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: roses of sharon
From siding with environmentalists, the Notre Dame invitation, the support of the Healthcare takeover

Can I have some of what you're smoking?

The bishops rejected the Deathcare law. Did you miss that?

A whole bunch of them spoke out against the Obama ND invitation, and since the bishop of the place himself spoke out against it, those who are silent tacitly agreed with him.

I think one bishop ... ONE ... said that he agreed with the invitation.

18 posted on 04/29/2010 11:22:49 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: TSgt
Bishop Wenski: Illegal immigration is like a parking ticket

So, Bishop, molesting altar boys equates to, say, being drunk in public, then?

19 posted on 04/29/2010 11:25:09 AM PDT by ScottinVA (RIP to the country I love...)
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To: TSgt
Pedophile protectors can stay, immigration reform types must go.

Bernard Cardinal Law is not the archbishop of Boston. Haven't you noticed?

Mahony should have been removed also, IMO. But at least he will not be kept on after retirement age.

20 posted on 04/29/2010 11:25:57 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: TSgt
factual and correct

Neither one, sorry.

Now, this Catholic has to go back to his real job. (I batter puppies to death -- slowly -- and wreck small children's birthday parties. I'm one of those evil Catholics -- we're all terrorists, really. We need killing badly.)

21 posted on 04/29/2010 11:28:44 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: Campion

Cardinal Law is in the safe haven of the Vatican still serving as an Archpriest of Basilica di Santa Maria Maggiore.

And Law is 78!


22 posted on 04/29/2010 11:30:25 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Missouri gal
Mexicans know little formal religion, and if I recall correctly, Mexican immigrants have a remarkably high proportion of leaving the Church.

Take a look at what's happening in Mexico:

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/islam-new-religion-rebellious-mexican-state-chiapas

23 posted on 04/29/2010 11:32:28 AM PDT by ScottinVA (RIP to the country I love...)
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To: Campion
The Bishops said they AGREED with the healthcare bill (that steal our private health insurance and our wages)...but wanted different abortion language. And liberal Catholic Nuns made a splash supporting the bill.

The University of Notre Dame is a Catholic University, run by the Catholic Church is it not?

And Catholic Bishops and Nuns are “employed and hired” so to speak, by the Catholic Church, are they not?

So when those authorities agitate, sympathize, and toil for the Democrat Party, then they are working for the enemy, are they not?

There is no way around this conclusion anymore, the Catholic Church has chosen sides, and it is not us.

24 posted on 04/29/2010 11:38:35 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Campion

Agree- What is most disturbing is that the AZ law is made out to be what it is not. It is NOT racial profiling.

Under law when an officer has reasonable suspicion to detain an individual such as failure to observe a stop sign, he is empowered to detain tnat individual and check for possible violations of other laws such as not having a valid driver’s license or inquire as to whether there is contraband, dangerous weapons or ask for residency and citizenship papers.

If a violation appears then a citation could be issued or a warrant for probable cause or arrest may lie. This is a NEUTRAL way of enforcing an earlier paraellel federal law.

Does anyone else have another way of enforcing such a law?


25 posted on 04/29/2010 11:43:15 AM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Alex Murphy; GonzoII; Mrs. Don-o; Salvation; wagglebee; narses; vladimir998; lastchance; ...
Alex,

You are absolutely right about this and, in fact, I think those who you will least surprise with this article are the Catholic FReepers (who have said this about the USCCB for years).

I, for one, am incredibly pissed by the behavior of our bishops who are teaching something that does not come close to lining up with the actual teachings of the Church.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church says:

2241 The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him.

Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical condition, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.

The Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church, paragraph 298, says:

Regulating immigration according to criteria of equity and balance is one of the indispensable conditions for ensuring that immigrants are integrated into society with the guarantees required by recognition of their human dignity.

Pope John Paul II, in his message for World Migration Day, 1996, acknowledged the problems of illegal immigration. In this message he said:

Today the phenomenon of illegal migrants has assumed considerable proportions, both because the supply of foreign labour is becoming excessive in comparison to the needs of the economy, which already has difficulty in absorbing its domestic workers, and because of the spread of forced migration.

He also discussed the topic in his Apostolic Exhortation Ecclesia in Europa, saying: Public authorities have the responsibility of controlling waves of migration with a view to the requirements of the common good.

Our current Holy Father said, in Caritas in Veritate, No country can be expected to address today's problems of migration by itself.

Despite this clear teaching of the Universal Magesterium, the bishops in the US seem unable to comprehend the concept that there is a difference between legal immigrants and illegal aliens. While their attitude, if it were restricted to legal migrants, guest workers, and legitimate refugees, would be perfectly defensible, that is NOT their attitude and I am offended...both as an American and as a Catholic.

26 posted on 04/29/2010 12:02:03 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: roses of sharon
Many Catholic Bishops but not all opposed the Health Reform Bill. The supporters are elderly and soon will be gone. Notre Dame as did most Jesuit Universities legally divorced themselves from Catholicism in 1968 with the Land Of the Lakes Agreement. Many of the priests and especially nuns when discussing health reform or immigration speak for themselves and not the Church. These people are mostly over 60 years of age and it will take about 20 years for the misguided individuals to leave this life.Death is a wonderful cleansing agent
The gospel of “Social Justice” was preached since Vatican II when many Catholics dreamed of being just like the mainline Protestants. This thank God has been slowly filtered out of the Church. If these priests and nuns had any sense of decency they would be attending mainline Protestant services and treating the Protestants to their " Brilliant" ideas.Republican stickers abound in my church parking lot on Sunday.
27 posted on 04/29/2010 12:09:10 PM PDT by bronx2
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To: bronx2
I know that patriots support those who work AGAINST them daily...hoping against hope that things will change.

And the evidence shows that things are getting worse for us in this country.

And I see ZERO signs of the Catholic Church actually working or succeeding in our interests.

28 posted on 04/29/2010 12:34:44 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: TSgt
Your observation, though factual and correct, will earn you the title anti-Catholic on FR.

Na, most here are logical and see who is on the side of liberty and who is not.
29 posted on 04/29/2010 12:45:41 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: roses of sharon

The University of Notre Dame is a Catholic University, run by the Catholic Church is it not?

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It is not run by the Catholic church, it is run by a lay board for just about the last 45 years.


30 posted on 04/29/2010 12:55:07 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Alex Murphy

What one must first understand is that the Cardinal is a liberal first and a Catholic somewhere down the road. My only window into his soul is what he shows in public, and quite obviously he shares the liberal belief that the United States is capable of harboring a fourth of the population of Mexico, and the poorest quarter at that. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, let us say that he wishes to spare some very good people from one of the most corrupt governments in the world, a place where the ordinary Mexican has almost no chance to prosper.

The problem is that his premise is wrong. As the collapse of California shows, the United States can do no such thing. California by itself ranks, or used to rank, among the 7th wealthiest political units in the world. But it is staggering under the strain of supporting the new immigration. The Nativists in NYC in the 1850s got a bad name for opposing the invasion of their city by poor Irishmen,people who brought nothing with them but strong backs and their poverty. They blamed Catholicism for Irish poverty. I myself blame English colonial government whose ineptness left the Irish to starve after the potato famine hit. I blame the Mexican government for the poverty of the Mexicans, the central American governments for the poverty of the Central Americans. Anyway, the poor have fled north and there are simply too many of them. We are like the rich man who out of the kindness of his heart takes in a poor man from the street. Fine, he has plenty to share. But now the poor man wants his whole family to move in. Fine, still, But now his whole village wants to move in, and there is simply not enough room.


31 posted on 04/29/2010 1:04:11 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: roses of sharon
Sen Sam Brownback R Ks and Rep Chris Smith R NJ are just a few of Republican Catholics who support patriotism. I didn't see you in the skies of Viet Nam when I was dodging the anti-missiles of the Communists. So your uniformed ZERO support from Catholics is categorically incorrect.
32 posted on 04/29/2010 1:14:00 PM PDT by bronx2
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To: dmz

Then obviously the Congregation of Catholic Education in Rome should protect more forcefully it’s “CATHOLIC” brand.

No brand has been more valuble...none!

A brand that for hundreds of years many have died and suffered rather than denounce.

It just makes me sick at heart...because we may need/do need Rome someday, we or our children’s children. What if we are unable to turn things around with the ballot box? What if we need to seriously unite against tyranny...and where will the Church be?? Against us as they are today?


33 posted on 04/29/2010 1:20:06 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Alex Murphy
Despite what the RCs on this site tell you, the Catholic Church only seems to complain about immigrants when they are Islamic (see certain Bishops in Italy and Spain). I've often said that the EU should be sponsoring immigrants from Mexico to go work in Italy, France, Spain, etc. instead of taking in Muslims.

Its no secret why California and Texas are now more Catholic than much of New England and the Mid-Atlantic. It isn't "conversions" as the RC caucus here will tell you.

34 posted on 04/29/2010 1:24:49 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: bronx2
And I see ZERO signs of the Catholic Church actually working or succeeding in our interests

I sincerely thank you for your service bronx, bless you for that.

But, as you know, I am speaking of the Catholic CHURCH, those with authority and influence in the public square. It is these men who work against our interests daily.
35 posted on 04/29/2010 1:27:55 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: markomalley

We have the tail wag the dog syndrome here in the US. The liberal bishops in the large dioceses somehow garner more “clout” in framing national Church policy to social issues.


36 posted on 04/29/2010 1:57:36 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: markomalley
I'm with you, markomalley. The moral and social view propounded in the Catechism is my guide, and it is excellent.

The U.S. Bishops who are sponsor and enable the massive illegal network which is bringing people into this country unlawfully, are clearly in the wrong.

This is clericalism at its most obnoxious, because these Bishops are wrongly clothing themselves in episcopal authority while usurping the role and responsibility of the laity, which is action for righteousness in the political sphere.

If anybody here, Catholic or not, stands with the Catechism and against the USCCB clerical bureaucracy, they will find an ally in me.

37 posted on 04/29/2010 3:44:14 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops." St. John Chrysostom, Bishop)
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To: Alex Murphy; Religion Moderator

I’m sure there’s a big reward for you for posting all these anti-Catholic threads............<sarcasm off

It’s gets tiresome, Alex.

Falsehoods and half-truths are not what makes up the Catholic Church.

You cannnot paint the entire Catholic Church with such generalities.


38 posted on 04/29/2010 3:45:55 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Alex Murphy
Updating you on what's happening with Mahony. LA is getting a REAL Catholic Archbishop! Hooray!

Cardinal Roger Mahony's Religious and Political Agenda
Suspended Gay Calif. Priest Laments: Abp. Gomez a 'Sharp Thrust to the Right' for LA Diocese
More Bogus Charges Against Archbishop Gomez
SEX ABUSE LAWSUIT NAMES SAN ANTONIO ARCHDIOCESE
Latino Immigrants Proud That L.A.'s Next Archbishop Is 'One of Us' [Can We Get Rid of Ethnic Pride?]
In Defense of Archbishop Gomez's Handling of Abuse Scandals
Archbishop Gomez: Who is He?

Why Archbishop Gomez is like other Bishops Appointed by Pope Benedict
An Interview with Archbishop José H. Gomez
Gomez vows to be an advocate for L.A.'s immigrants...(misleading title alert!)
San Antonio's Archbishop José Gomez named by Pope to be successor to Cardinal Roger Mahony. ...
Precious words from the archbishop... [Jose Gomez]
New Coadjutor of Los Angeles One of 22 Opus Dei Bishops
Opus Dei Seeks to Make Everyday Life Holier
Archbishop Gomez 'deeply grateful' for Los Angeles appointment
Cardinal Mahony grateful LA will have Hispanic archbishop
Vatican: Archbishop Gomez appointed to Archdiocese of LA

Pope's 'Revenge' As LA Gets Opus Dei Bishop [Pope's "Revenge" on Hollywood Sodomites!]
Gomez Holds Both Conservative And Progressive Views [Denounced College for Pro-Abortion HRC Invite]
Pope Names Latino Leader For L.A. Archdiocese [Member of Conservative Opus Dei Movement]/a>
Historic Appointment to LA Archdiocese
Report: Gomez is going to L.A.
It's Official: New Archbishop [Gomez} for Los Angeles
El Tiempo Ha Venido -- Reports: (Archbishop) Gomez Up to LA (Catholic Caucus)
[To replace Cardinal Mahony] Vatican rumor: an American prelate in play?
Los Angeles Getting a New Archbishop (Part 1)
Los Angeles Getting a New Archbishop (Part 2)

39 posted on 04/29/2010 3:47:19 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Look here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2503194/posts?page=39#39

And he’s not a Mexican. He is a naturalized citizen. He knows how to do it the right way! Please get your facts before you start slamming people around.


40 posted on 04/29/2010 3:50:17 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: roses of sharon
**The Bishops said they AGREED with the healthcare bill (that steal our private health insurance and our wages)...but wanted different abortion language. And liberal Catholic Nuns made a splash supporting the bill.**

No they didn't. The vehemently opposed it and still do oppose it. Please check out these FR threads.

A bad bill and how we got it (Archbishop Chaput on "a failure of decent lawmaking")
Denver Archbishop Criticizes CHA 'Counter-Witness' Against Bishops on Health Care
Catholic Bishops’ Plea to Congress: Do Not Pass Pro-abortion Health Care Bill
U.S. Bishops’ final plea to Congressmen: Do not pass pro-abortion health care bill
U.S. Bishops’ final plea to Congressmen: Do not pass pro-abortion health care bill

Cardinal O'Malley rips pro-Obama Catholics on health care
U.S. bishops, dissenting Catholics face off in in health care debate
Practical Politics 101 (remedial: for US bishops) [Is it time to contact our Bishops?]
Opinion: Speaker Pelosi’s Bishop Corrects her Once Again. Call to Catholic Action.
Pelosi’s archbishop slams her rationale for supporting abortion

Mandated Abortion Coverage Threatens Health Care Reform, U.S. Bishops Official Says
Alveda King: Reid's Racial Insensitivity Exceeded by Disregard for Unborn
U.S. bishops reactivate nationwide campaign against federal abortion funding
Battle Over Abortion Funding in Congress Pits Catholics Against Each Other
New Catholic mandate on comatose patients

The US Catholic Bishops and Health Care Reform: A Failure of Imagination
US Bishops' Biggest Hope: Life-Affirming Care for All
Abortion Debate Shows the Catholic Bishops' Growing Influence
The Catholic case against health-care reform
Pro-Life Leaders Launch Opposition to Senate Health Bill Following Nelson Amendment Demise

With pro-life amendment's defeat, US bishops urgently call for changes in Senate health bill
More Proof that the US Catholic Bishops are Leading the Charge in Abortion Battle
Bishops Urge Senators to Support [Abortion]Amendment on Health Care; Urge Constituents to Back It
Bishops urged to be tough on pols who would pay for abortion
Health reform still full of thorny problems for Catholics (Vasa comes out for subsidiarity)

Healthcare and Catholics: True and False Arguments

Meddling Bishops Interfere in Political Process

How the Stupak-Pitts Amendment May Change Our Politics
Health Care and the Power of the Bishops' Conference
US Bishops: Abortion Isn't Health Care
Denver Archbishop Chaput says promises were broken on abortion
Catholic Bishops: Health Care Bill ... ‘Money-Laundering System’ for Funding Abortion

Catholic Caucus: The Bishops Go On Offense
US bishops conference mounts late drive against 'unacceptable' health-care reform
Catholic Bishops Urge Members to Oppose Abortion Funding in Health Care Plan [Catholic Uprising!]
Bishops Announce Unprecedented Massive Catholic Opposition to Obamacare
Bishops Call for Massive Catholic Opposition to Abortion in Current Health Care Reform

Archbishop Charles Chaput on the Current Struggle Between Catholics and "Caesar"
The Bishop's Ax Falls on Obama. And on the Vatican Curia (bombshell article)
US Bishops: Heath Package Still Funding Abortions (Urge Congress to Keep Working)
Catholic Bishops Declare They Will ‘Vigorously’ Oppose Health Care Bill as It Now Stands
Bishops Restate Vow vs. Obamacare's Abortion

Important: US Bishops taking the gloves off on health care reform
BREAKING: Catholic Bishops On Health Care - Change Bills Or Else
U.S. bishops warn of vigorous opposition if Congress fails to fix health care bills
List: *41* Bishops against Obamacare (and counting!)
Bishop Murphy Issues Video Statement on Health Care Reform [Diocese of Rockville Centre]

Health Care Principles [Bishop Samuel Aquila, Fargo, ND]
Florida Bishop [Thomas Wenski] Weighs in on Health Care Reform
ObamaCare and Catholic social teaching [Bishop Neckless]
Some Catholic bishops question gov't health care
Boston’s Roman Catholic Cardinal Says He Confronted Obama about Abortion in Health Care Plan....

Iowa Bishop: Don’t Be Railroaded into the Current...Health Care Proposals
in a message issued by the Diocese of Sioux City (The Church on Universal Healthcare)
Nazi Health Care A Catholic Bishop Speaks Out Against "End of Life Care" (Germany, 1941)
Bishop Nickless: "No Health Care Reform is Better than the Wrong Health Care Reform"
Cardinal Rigali, Abp. Chaput Intensify Warnings Against Obamacare's Abortion Expansion

41 posted on 04/29/2010 3:53:39 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: bronx2

The people that created this nation were not immigrants, they allowed immigrants to come to our nation.


42 posted on 04/29/2010 4:06:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: bronx2
The gospel of “Social Justice” was preached since Vatican II when many Catholics dreamed of being just like the mainline Protestants. This thank God has been slowly filtered out of the Church. If these priests and nuns had any sense of decency they would be attending mainline Protestant services and treating the Protestants to their " Brilliant" ideas.

Mainline Protestants have always been to the right of Catholics, and still are, until recent years, they were way, way to the right.

43 posted on 04/29/2010 4:15:43 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: Salvation
http://www.usccb.org/comm/archives/2009/09-013.shtml

Thanks for the links Salvation, I will ck them out....but my complaint is with the very powerful and influential USCCB for very publicly supporting Obama’s “universal healthcare bill”, saying many times over many months that it was a “good bill” that they agreed with its purpose.

EXCEPT for the abortion language.

44 posted on 04/29/2010 4:17:26 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: roses of sharon

That’s why they DID NOT support it.


45 posted on 04/29/2010 4:31:46 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RobbyS
Excellent post and point.

Bump!

46 posted on 04/29/2010 4:38:51 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Salvation
Correct, but this does not negate the fact that they and (therefore the Catholic Church imo), support the Democrat Party's drive for the diminution of liberty in the US. They agree with Universal, governmental, socialist healthcare.

Universal Healthcare will steal our family's private health insurance and our earnings for generations to come.

It will diminish our individual health and our nations wealth. And will grow government to an astonishing level.

This new law will also make conservative politics impossible...who will campaign to take away healthcare? And who will vote for any conservative who does?

Unless this is repealed, Conservatism is deader than it is already. How does it help to promote pro-life and other conservative values if we are even more weakened?

Is this the goal of the Catholic Church? To grow the State? How is this conducive to human freedoms?

47 posted on 04/29/2010 5:01:43 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: roses of sharon

OK, tell me this.

If one teacher at a middle school sexually abuses a student, does that indict all the other teachers? No.

Does that mean the entire school is unfit for learning? No.

You cannot speak about the entire Catholic Church is such generalities as you do. It’s just like the media telling us we elected Obama................when most of us didn’t want him.

Go figure. Do Catholics put all protestants into little cubbyholes like this? No.

So, no way, can you put the entire Catholic Church and ALL Catholics, as you say, into this little cubbyhole you have crafted with words. It just doesn’t work.

Please don’t say that I as a Catholic support illegal immigration just because I am a Catholic. That’s nonsense. Get my drift?????

I certainly hope so.


48 posted on 04/29/2010 5:08:23 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ansel12
Having been exposed to the “Great” mainline ministers of the second half of the 20th Century , conservative and orthodox Protestants such as Bishop James Pike, Bishop Shelby Spong, Marcus Borg, Jesus Seminar members, ELCA, et al I wonder if some mainline Protestants still believe in God or have they become cultural Protestants to join with the spiritual bankrupt Catholics of Vatican II. The aforementioned ministers were the ones who dominated the headlines for so long that they gave the appearance of representing all mainline Protestantism even if this was a false impression. Many Catholics believe that absent the Fundamental types as Baptists, mainline Protestantism have evolved into a social club.
The Catholic Church is slowly excising its radical leftist elements so dominant after Vatican II. There is a widely held perception among Catholics, that mainline Protestants, starting with the Lambeth Conference of 1928 no longer ascribe to historical Christian doctrines. The mainline Protestantism of Spong , Berg, Pike, coupled with the ordination of Gays and women is the mainline Protestantism familiar to most Catholics so to state that Protestants are to the right of Catholicism is absurd.
49 posted on 04/29/2010 5:20:15 PM PDT by bronx2
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To: Salvation
Of course, and again, as I explained above...I am speaking of the leadership, the authorities, the men who have influence and persuasive power, the men in the Church who are there to protect all of us no matter what faith one holds.

No men of God in any faith should be encouraging the secular left to power.
50 posted on 04/29/2010 5:26:25 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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