Posted on 05/10/2010 7:41:06 PM PDT by delacoert
Blood atonement, blood letting, “using up”, the Danites, anyone ???
The Mountain Meadows Massacre
The Bear River Massacre
The Circleville Massacre
Mormon bishop Warren Snow and Thomas Lewis, 1857
Mormon temple ceremony on blood oaths against the US government...
Mormon temple ceremony on blood oaths against all non-mormons...
Briggy Young sermons on blood letting of non-mormons in order to “save” them...
Joey Smith and his 40+ mistresses Joey Smith and his bank scam and fraud....Phony $3 bills...
Joey Smith and his pedophilia....14 year old girls
Joey Smith and his burning down of a newspaper office
Joey Smith and his open air rants and boasts that he was greater than Jesus..
The mormon doctrine that only males who have multiple “wives” get to go to “heaven”
Joey Smith and his bar where he sold booze to his mormon friends...
Briggy Youngs large and prosperous brewery that he stole off another mormon..
Briggy Youngs many “wives” that he built Texas compound like dormitories to house, right in the middle of Salt lake City..
$4 BILLION shopping malls..
Multi million dollar resorts...
Multi million dollar exclusive mormon clubs called “temples”
Pyramid scams..
Ponzi scams..
Racism
relifious bigotry
sexism
D&C 132
and so on..
Ah yes...
“the public behavior and publicly demonstrated values of the Mormon”
Good luck with stopping the stone cut without hands!
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Yeah well that “rolling stone” met up with the Rock...
And the Rock made flint of the “rolling stone”
You know darn well reaganaut it was never LDS doctrine only an opinion of BY.
“This is an old question. It was asked of the Prophet Joseph Smith and answered by him. He writes in his journal, “This morning . . . I visited with a brother and sister from Michigan, who thought that ‘a prophet is always a prophet’; but I told them that a prophet is a prophet only when he was acting as such” (Joseph Smith, _History of the Church_, 5:265).
“That statement makes a clear distinction between official and unofficial actions and utterances of officers of the Church. In this recorded statement the Prophet Joseph Smith recognizes his special right and duty, as the President and Prophet of the Church, under the inspiration of the Lord, to speak authoritatively and officially for the enlightenment and guidance of the Church.
But he claims also the right, as other men, to labor and rest, to work and play, to visit and discuss, to present his opinions and hear the opinion of others, to counsel and bless as a member of the Church
I’d rather have one of the fine Mormon’s I’ve known backing me on a patrol
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Sure
We’ll send over the two time draft dodging Williard Mitt Romney...
Page 55 of the LDS Church manual entitled "Gospel Principles" reads, "In addition to these four books of scripture, the inspired words of our living prophets become scripture to us. Their words come to us through conferences, Church publications, and instructions to local priesthood leaders."
Are you saying the Brigham Young was not a prophet and leader of the LDS?
Bet the Board of BYU would like to know that....
Like I said, I am sure that you have only the most respectful and loving of intentions with your crusade against The LDS People. personal attacks, condescending attitudes, and other forms of derision are only weakening your arguments. Gainsaying will only ultimately promote our cause just as the anti-nazarenes in Christ’s time promoted the truth inadvertently then as well. The stone cut without hands is still rolling despite your efforts here.
Wish I could continue the fun but work is beckoning. a puppy picture would have been nice. Have a great day!
I didn’t know that Christ would stop his own gospel from coming into the world... you always entertain with your extreme (and out of context) examples though.
Yet it was TAUGHT by the PROPHET Young as DOCTRINE. If it was his OPINION, then Young was a FALSE PROPHET since he taught it as a REVELATION from GOD. By teaching FALSE DOCTRINE he mislead the mormon sheeples, and the paper trail of Young's DOCTRINAL teachings of this make it clear - he was acting as a PROPHET when he did it.
The LDS is having a truth crisis, and in turn a membership crisis, and as result a lot of souls are saved or at least given a new lease on life.
As far as condescending attitudes, we would have a lot of ground to cover to reach the proficiency that the LDS masters have achieved since Joe Smith condemned all of Christendom as whores and such. So we really don't try that. We just state the truth and return a little of the LDS approved snarkyness best we can...
“Are Mormons Christian? Inquiry into the Church of Latter Day Saints, a peculiarly American Religion
Not if they believe in the mormon jesus, who is simply another created being who worked his way to godhood in the great mormonic pantheon of trillions of gods.
Not if they believe in more than one God.
Can any mormon turn to the real God of the Bible and the
Real Biblical Christ and become a Christian? ABSOLUTELY.
***What ever happened to “love thy neighbor?”***
Christians are not the ones who started this fight back about 1829 when J Smith walked out of the woods claiming all churches were wrong and only HE had the truth and we had better obey him or else HE would stand in the door to heaven and keep out all those who didn’t have a pass from him.
He threw down the gauntlet and the Christians picked it up.
Nana is dead on, and it is happening at an ever quickening pace.
not anti-Mormon anti-MormonISM.
Do you really want to go there again (or yet again) Resty!?!?
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Yes I will go there because you are having a hard time understanding!
Unless it is a consensus by the 12 it is not LDS doctrine there may be spoken in GF words that is inspiring to those in their personal situation that have meaning but not always collectively!
Lets not forget the MORRISITE MASSACRE. Mormons killing Mormons to see whose “prophet” was right.
So much for "follow the prophet, he will NEVER lead you astray" as he can teach FALSE teachings and FALSE doctrines without rebuke. lsd needs to go back and revise their sales pitch then and remove the 'living' prophet portions.
But as Godzilla point out, BY taught this as Doctrine.
You own rule book says such is Scripture, it is doctrine, it is fact.
Sorry, you can click your heels together all you want and wish it away, but the facts cannot change no matter how many rugs the LDS keep trying to sweep the past under...
Oh let me explain about mormon bishop Warren Snow and what he did to young Thomas Lewis...
In Utah in 1857, Thomas Lewis was a 24 year old mormon man who was engaged to marry the girl he loved...the pretty girl loved him back tand they were looking forward to their wedding day...
It just so happened that a mormon bishop named Warren Snow had several “wives” but wanted the young bride-to-be also...
(As Heber C Kimball, a member of the mormon on first presidency, who had at least 45 “wives” said “Taking another wife is just like buying another cow”)
Snow did what his mormon bishopric position gave him the “right” and the “authority” to do...He ordered Thomas to give up his fiance to Snow..Thomas refused...
Next the mormon bishop went to the girl and demanded her to become his extra “wife” instead of being the only wife of Thomas...the girl refused saying she loved only thomas...
So Snow continued to lust after the girl to the point that he had Thomas kiddnapped and he castrated the young man so that he could not marry his sweetheart...(there were other occurances of castration in mormon history besides this one. Joey Smith started the horrible practice in Nauvoo)
In the words of John D Lee...
“I knew of many men being killed in Nauvoo... and I know of many a man who was quietly put out of the way by the orders of Joseph and his Apostles while the Church was there.” (Ibid., page 284) Lee also revealed another very cruel practice which took place both in Nauvoo, Illinois, and in early Utah:
“In Utah it has been the custom with the Priesthood to make eunuchs of such men as were obnoxious to the leaders. This was done for a double purpose: first, it gave a perfect revenge, and next, it left the poor victim a living example to others of the dangers of disobeying counsel and not living as ordered by the Priesthood.
“In Nauvoo it was the orders from Joseph Smith and his apostles to beat, wound and castrate all Gentiles that the police could take in the act of entering or leaving a Mormon household under circumstances that led to the belief that they had been there for immoral purposes.... In Utah it was the favorite revenge of old, worn-out members of the Priesthood, who wanted young women sealed to them, and found that the girl preferred some handsome young man. The old priests generally got the girls, and many a young man was unsexed for refusing to give up his sweetheart at the request of an old and failing, but still sensual apostle or member of the Priesthood. As an illustration... Warren Snow was Bishop of the Church at Manti, San Pete County, Utah. He had several wives, but there was a fair, buxom young woman in the town that Snow wanted for a wife.... She thanked him for the honor offered, but told him she was then engaged to a young man, a member of the Church, and consequently could not marry the old priest.... He told her it was the will of God that she should marry him, and she must do so; that the young man could be got rid of, sent on a mission or dealt with in some way... that, in fact, a promise made to the young man was not binding, when she was informed that it was contrary to the wishes of the authorities.
“The girl continued obstinate.... the authorities called on the young man and directed him to give up the young woman. This he steadfastly refused to do.... He remained true to his intended, and said he would die before he would surrender his intended wife to the embraces of another.... The young man was ordered to go on a mission to some distant locality... But the mission was refused...
“It was then determined that the rebellious young man must be forced by harsh treatment to respect the advice and orders of the Priesthood. His fate was left to Bishop Snow for his decision. He decided that the young man should be castrated; Snow saying, ‘When that is done, he will not be liable to want the girl badly, and she will listen to reason when she knows that her lover is no longer a man.’
“It was then decided to call a meeting of the people who lived true to counsel, which was held in the school-house in Manti... The young man was there, and was again requested, ordered and threatened, to get him to surrender the young woman to Snow, but true to his plighted troth, he refused to consent to give up the girl. The lights were then put out. An attack was made on the young man. He was severely beaten, and then tied with his back down on a bench, when Bishop Snow took a bowie-knife, and performed the operation in a most brutal manner, and then took the portion severed from his victim and hung it up in the school-house on a nail, so that it could be seen by all who visited the house afterwards.
“The party then left the young man weltering in his blood, and in a lifeless condition. During the night he succeeded in releasing himself from his confinement, and dragged himself to some hay-stacks, where he lay until the next day, when he was discovered by his friends. The young man regained his health, but has been an idiot or quite lunatic ever since....
“After this outrage old Bishop Snow took occasion to get up a meeting... When all had assembled, the old man talked to the people about their duty to the Church, and their duty to obey counsel, and the dangers of refusal, and then publicly called attention to the mangled parts of the young man, that had been severed from his person, and stated that the deed had been done to teach the people that the counsel of the Priesthood must be obeyed. To make a long story short, I will say, the young woman was soon after forced into being sealed to Bishop Snow.
“Brigham Young... did nothing against Snow. He left him in charge as Bishop at Manti, and ordered the matter to be hushed up.”
(Confessions of John D. Lee, 1877 Ed., Pp 284-286)
Mormons today would be appalled if such a dastardly deed was committed and would demand that the persons responsible be severely punished. Brigham Young, however, approved of many violent acts perpetrated by those he put in authority. Interestingly, D. Michael Quinn found documented evidence showing that President Young supported Bishop Warren S. Snow’s cruel mistreatment of the young man:
“In the midsummer of 1857 Brigham Young also expressed approval for an LDS bishop who had castrated a man. In May 1857 Bishop Warren S. Snow’s counselor wrote that twenty-four-year-old Thomas Lewis ‘has now gone crazy’ after being castrated by Bishop Snow for an undisclosed sex crime. When informed of Snow’s action, Young said: ‘I feel to sustain him...’ In July Brigham Young wrote a reassuring letter to the bishop about this castration: ‘Just let the matter drop, and say no more about it,’ the LDS president advised, ‘and it will soon die away among the people.’ “ (The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power, Vol. 2, pages 250-251)
“the public behavior and publicly demonstrated values of the Mormon.”
It does not surprised me that you are having a hard time or unable to receive!
They are hungry for legitimacy that only the triune God can give
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