Oh no, free reign to promote opposing points of view on an internet forum, how horrid!
Posted on 06/13/2010 6:28:26 PM PDT by Colofornian
There is something very reminiscent in the way you post.
Spencer W. Kimball made it clear that “Trying is not sufficient” (Miracle of Forgiveness, 164). President Joseph Fielding Smith wrote, “To enter the celestial and obtain exaltation it is necessary that the whole law be kept…” (The Way to Perfection, 206). Within mormonism the sacrifice of Christ is totally unnecessary. heavenly father became a god without it, adam became a god without it as well as the multitudes of other gods before Jesus. All one has to do is perfectly keep all of the eternal law perfectly and at all times. The bible shows that this 'gospel' is clearly a lie -
1Jo 1:8 KJV - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jo 1:10 KJV - If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
This is the impossible 'gospel' of mormonism. The TRUE gospel of Jesus Christ frees us from the bondage of such law -
“Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary” (Galatians 3:19).
“But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian [the Law], for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith” (Galatians 3:25-26).
We do believe that Christ has restored priesthood authority to earth
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But why do you believe that He wouold EVER have to do that ???
Explain why you think Jesus ever lost, misplaced, dropped or had stolen His Church, His Bride, the Believers in Him...
How and why would that have ever happened ???
Just wondering why this small group only seems concerned with pointing out the faults of Mormons.
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Gosh my computer wont show the follow on post where it states why Joey Smith “seemed concerned with pointing out the faults of” Christians...
Plus the input from Briggy Young, Kimball, Snow, McConkle, Woodruff, another Smith, etc...
Do I need special soft ware ???
Oh no, free reign to promote their religion on an internet forum, how horrid!
Oh no, free reign to promote opposing points of view on an internet forum, how horrid!
Mormons do NOT believe the Gospel of Christ.
Christ “died for the UNGODLY” alone.
Mormonism is built on the heresy of human works
proving a mormon is “worthy” of the gospel
after “all they can do”.
This is the OPPOSITE of the Gospel of Grace.
Christ established a universal priesthood of
ALL those who have trusted Him for salvation
(ie. “the ungodly” who have recognized they
have nothing to contribute to their salvation)
- nor a remix of the Jewish priesthood.
That too, is a heresy of mormonism.
In fact, there isn’t anything about mormonism
that restores anything for the true Church.
Zilch.
Reasoning and logic not your strong suite is it....
yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.
So what "justifies" us in God's sight?
Attempted Obedience?
Ritual ordinance-keeping?
Word of wisdom-keeping?
Observation this and observation that?
A spiritual checklist?
None from this list. The apostle Paul says it frankly: faith in Jesus...'ongoingly' believing Jesus.
That's why even an 8 yo -- and younger -- can be saved. They know how to trust parents; and many likewise know how to trust the Ultimate Father, God.
Even mentally retarted individuals love, relate, and trust. The Christian Gospel can be grasped by them. God doesn't develop a long "to do" list to join His family, 2 Nephi 25:23 Book of Mormon style. That's just not the way a true father operates.
I grew up in a house with a lot of animals.
:)
I’m sorry. Wrong movie.
I was cruising along and shot my gun too quickly. I was not in top form.
I don't get it. Were they abused?
That’s why even an 8 yo — and younger — can be saved.
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My daughter was 3 when she was saved and baptised in the Holy Spirit...
The Holy Spirit taught her how to recognize Him...
It was funny to watch...
LOL
(At 3 she had all of the authority of God she needed...
at that age she lay her little anointed hands on people for healing etc...
and they were healed...)
God is not a respecter of people male, female, black, white ANY AGE...
The Apostle Paul is also very frank about this in another letter:
Eph 2:8 KJV - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 KJV - Not of works, lest any man should boast.
LDS - do you boast about your works? How many of you when you give your child a birthday or Christmas present withold it until they have paid you for it? Yes, even an 8 year old can understand the concept of ‘gift’ and the gift of salvation is unconditional. Face it, there is absolutely nothing that can be done to earn any of it - Paul completely rules it out - other than faith in Jesus. That is the true beauty of the Gospel.
The gospel of mormonism is that referred to in Isaiah -
Isa 64:6 KJV - But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags (menstrual cloths); and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Did you grow up in a home where any opposition to one parent was considered as "demonizing"??
Just wondering why this small group only seems concerned with pointing out the faults of Mormons.
It's more faultlines -- than faults. By measuring faultlines, experts can gauge likely future disaster zones and ensure proper codifications to protect against home and business collapses, thereby saving lives. You know, faultline finding is a pretty detailed and even "negative" business. You're just trying to diagnose locations; measure movement over a given year by mere inches. All for what? Protect vs. impending disaster.
A spiritual disaster is coming to many. Jesus said "wide is the road" leading to destruction & "narrow the way" to life. That wasn't exactly a rah-rah pep talk.
Other points: (1) By using the word "only," you seem to assume that you know what we do with our lives 24/7. (Hey, we can multi-task) Many of us also post in threads beyond Mormonism.
(2) What's really absurd is that your out-of-balanced concerned with how a "small group" spends its "electric time" each week; yet have you ever contacted a Mormon and asked them why they send out 52,000 Missionaries who spend two years of their lives, 6-days-a-week, 70 hours a week, who are seemingly "only...concerned" with the spiritual welfare of others?
What? Do you think Lds missionaries go around with a "positive message?"
Marion G. Romney, Mitt's dad's cousin, used to oversee the Lds missionary enterprise in the early 1960s. He taught Lds missionaries that one of the top four "talking points" was for them to mention the "universal apostasy" & restoration.
What's the "universal apostasy?" Lds believe ALL Christians are "apostates"-- that the Christian church universally abandoned the faith. (No different than Muslims who call us "infidels").
So, Raider, how 'bout you wondering why this "large group" (of 52,000 Lds missionaries; literally over a million sent out since 1830)...
...goes to communities--some times that is 75% Christian
--and these missionaries never seems to tire of them calling Christians...
...apostates...?
..."corrupt"...?(printed in Lds Pearl of Great Price as description of Christian professing believers)
...and creedally abominable?...a word meaning "putrid" (same source)
Oh no, free reign to promote their religion on an internet forum, how horrid!
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More like the LDS had free reign to lie to others about what the LDS church teaches. The LDS rarely, if ever, tell outsiders or potential converts what they REALLY believe, under the guise of ‘milk before meat’. I don’t like anybody who pulls a bait and switch.
We counter that by telling the truth about LDS history and doctrine.
Yeah she is, you two would get along famously.
That's an awesome question daelbert. I don't HAVE to do anything to be saved except turn my life over to Jesus.
However, we're ENCOURAGED to meet together. Hebrews 10:25 "Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another".
We are not meant to walk alone and I love regularly joining with my fellow believers to sing and hear the Word.
But you could never go and it cannot affect your salvation.
Latter-day Saints don’t believe that the organization of the church saves them. Christ alone can do that.
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HOGWASH. In order to be saved (return to God the Father) you must...
be an active, faitful, tithe paying, temple endowed Mormon.
Everyone else goes to a ‘lower kingdom’.
I’m talking spiritual salvation, not physical which is what the LDS mean when they say ‘saved by Grace’.
Want me to post sources for this? You know I can - I have done it before.
There is no priesthood authority and Christ did not set up a denomination. LDS in NO WAY resembles the church of the NT, they just play at religion and give people a false sense of securityl.
Don’t lie for the Lord, Norm.
Of course Jesus is the only way that salvation is possible
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To Mormons, MORMONISM is the only way to salvation.
Christ + works is NOT Christ alone. Give it up. Mormons believe they are the only TRUE Christians. I CAN source that if you want.
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