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This is nothing new. And nobody in the Jewish community is considering this the revealing of the man from Nazareth.

Arguing with them is useless, blasater. These people "know" that Yushqa is the messiah. They don't just believe, they "KNOW." And do you know how they know? Because their bible has a "new testament" in it and the "new testament" (and thus their bible) says that Yushqa is the messiah. And that's all there is to it.

As every FReeper knows, I certainly consider Protestants--especially the American Fundamentalist variety--to be far, far better than traditional liturgical chr*stianity. But the Protestants drive me crazy just as they do everyone else by insisting that the Protestant bible is self-evidently "the word of G-d" and needs no canonization. The "bible" says it is the word of G-d and the bible is the word of G-d (and thus cannot be mistaken), so when the bible says it is the word of G-d then that proves that the bible is the word of G-d!

The American-style Protestants I love so much don't realize that only the Torah was written directly by G-d and needed no approval by a human religious authority of some kind. The Na"KH was canonized by the 'Anshey HaKenesset HaGedolah and the "new testament" was canonized by the ancient Catholic/Orthodox church. But Protestants don't recognize this.

All questions of whether the "old testament" really is that chr*stological is "refuted" by quoting the "new testament" (the "word of G-d"). Protestants "know" that Yushqa fulfilled the messianic prophecies because the "new testament" said he did, and the "new testament" is the word of G-d because it's part of the self-authorizing, self-authenticating Protestant bible.

I thought of posting a facepalm to the post to which I was pinged, but it would do no good. Trying to reason with these people is like trying to feed a bale of hay to an ant. It's impossible. These people will believe in Yushqa (because their "bible" tells them to) up until the moment the real Mashiach is revealed. I only hope they acknowledge the truth then, though some of them are so hard-headed that I'm sure some will pull out their KJV and read it to Mashiach to "prove" that he isn't Mashiach!

I've been a Noachide for twenty years and at first I was very optimistic about converting my people. Experience has disabused me. Looks like I'm going to have to be lonely for some time to come.

They don't just believe, they "KNOW."

Yes, Christians KNOW Jesus is The Messiah, their Savior.

And do you know how they know? Because their bible has a "new testament" in it and the "new testament" (and thus their bible) says that Yushqa is the messiah. And that's all there is to it.

Because of the HOLY SPIRIT they KNOW. He is the Teacher. He was from the beginning.

Looks like I'm going to have to be lonely for some time to come.

Holy Spirit filled Christians are NEVER lonely. They can be alone but NEVER lonely.

John 14:16 "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever.

John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

John 16:7 "But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.

And in ACTS (NT)the HOLY SPIRIT came! Thank YOU, Jesus, The Living Word, Our Faithful All Loving Savior.

Without the NT and the HS within, one couldn't KNOW this.