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To: Deo volente
So Sacred Tradition is acceptable? Some of your compatriots here will not like that!

You guys change the wording of the scripture to say 'and' instead of 'or'...You do that so you can claim that scripture and your Catholic tradition go together...

2Th 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

The question is; what is the tradition???

Paul is saying that we need to follow the traditions...So from a Catholic perspective, we can follow the Catholic tradition, OR, we can follow the scripture...Either one will work equally well...

But the scripture says that the spoken word and the written word will work equally well...There's a whole world of difference there...How could you guys follow the Catholic tradition without the benefit of the written word??? You couldn't...

And of course, you guys change the word of God to say 'and' instead of 'or' and pretend the scriptures and your Catholic tradition go together...But that's not what the verse says...

In order to be able to chose the traditions taught, whether they be the spoken word, or the written epistle, they MUST be the same thing...

4,506 posted on 07/31/2010 9:31:22 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool; don-o; Natural Law
“Paul is saying that we need to follow the traditions...So from a Catholic perspective, we can follow the Catholic tradition, OR, we can follow the scripture...Either one will work equally well...”

Paul did not use the phrase “equally well” to explain what he was talking about, nor is that meaning implied in the verse.

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“But the scripture says that the spoken word and the written word will work equally well...There's a whole world of difference there...How could you guys follow the Catholic tradition without the benefit of the written word??? You couldn't...”

The Scripture does not say or imply that the spoken and written word will work “equally well”.

Also, the Church's Tradition is NOT “without the benefit of the written word”. They work together. There's never any conflict between Scripture and Church Tradition.
You're right, though. We couldn't follow the Tradition without the help of God's Word in Scripture.

The whole rickety edifice of “sola scriptura” falls to the ground on just this one verse of St. Paul. That's what amazes me about the argument. It gets so convoluted, trying to prove that the WRITTEN word is the sole rule of faith, when St. Paul explicitly says the opposite.

4,509 posted on 07/31/2010 9:50:48 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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