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To: boatbums
Can you understand why some non-Catholics here might get confused about what is actually believed in your religion?

The confusion stems (I think and hope) from an almost total breakdown of a common language as we see in the fact that many Catholics can't express their Faith in terms a Protestant could even begin to understand.

For that matter there are an abundance of Catholics who couldn't express their Faith in terms even they can understand. Nevertheless I'm not about to judge what's in the heart based on whether someone can trigger exactly the words I want to hear.

Without putting too much credence into what I'm about to write, let me tentatively suggest the following: When Catholics (especially Catholics who have never talked to a Protestant about these things) are talking about salvation odds are pretty high that they're really talking about what someone from a Wesleyan tradition would understand as sanctification. I'm not an authority on these matters though so I may be way off base and at the very least there's a great danger of over-simplification and of course the point I made about Catholics and Protestants no longer sharing a common language. If we ever did.

Words like salvation, sanctification, justification, predestination, etc., just aren't in the average Catholic's vocabulary. And certainly words like prayer and worship don't mean much of anything similar to Catholics and Protestants.

571 posted on 07/19/2010 10:17:21 AM PDT by Legatus
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To: Legatus
: When Catholics (especially Catholics who have never talked to a Protestant about these things) are talking about salvation odds are pretty high that they're really talking about what someone from a Wesleyan tradition would understand as sanctification.

I'm not going to say 100%, but I think that's pretty good. I certainly get the impression of something that is BOTH an ontological/status change which has a certain discontinuity to it AND of a process with a 'perfection' down the road somewhere.

604 posted on 07/19/2010 3:39:48 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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To: Legatus

The confusion stems (I think and hope) from an almost total breakdown of a common language as we see in the fact that many Catholics can’t express their Faith in terms a Protestant could even begin to understand.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2555388/posts

I would appreciate your input on the linked article in the above thread.


629 posted on 07/19/2010 4:31:18 PM PDT by don-o (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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