To: johngrace
"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." JOHN6-63
He is talking about Human(flesh) thinking which is lower than spiritual(Godly) thinking. Meaning from God.
" the words(Godly Logic) that I speak unto you, they are spirit(GOD who is above human), and they are life."
It's literal.
Say it again, and again, and again, until it makes sense.
591 posted on
07/19/2010 2:47:10 PM PDT by
OLD REGGIE
(I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
To: OLD REGGIE
In John 6:63 "flesh profits nothing" refers to mankinds inclination to think using only what their natural human reason would tell them rather than what God would tell them. Thus in John 8:1516 Jesus tells his opponents: "You judge according to the flesh, I judge no one. Yet even if I do judge, my judgment is true, for it is not I alone that judge, but I and he who sent me." So natural human judgment, unaided by Gods grace, is unreliable; but Gods judgment is always true.
And were the disciples to understand the line "The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life" as nothing but a circumlocution (and a very clumsy one at that) for "symbolic"? No one can come up with such interpretations unless he first holds to the Fundamentalist position and thinks it necessary to find a rationale, no matter how forced, for evading the Catholic interpretation. In John 6:63 "flesh" does not refer to Christs own fleshthe context makes this clearbut to mankinds inclination to think on a natural, human level. "The words I have spoken to you are spirit" does not mean "What I have just said is symbolic." The word "spirit" is never used that way in the Bible. The line means that what Christ has said will be understood only through faith; only by the power of the Spirit and the drawing of the Father (cf. John 6:37, 4445, 65).
http://www.catholic.com/library/Christ_in_the_Eucharist.asp
618 posted on
07/19/2010 4:10:10 PM PDT by
johngrace
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