Posted on 07/21/2010 10:07:54 PM PDT by xzins
Not-so-closeted gas have worked themselves in many Methodist positions of authority, and are just looking for the right time to take the entire denomination over.
gas=gays
**This UM seminary is now “multi-faith” — meaning they are bringing on board Muslim professors to train Muslim imams (clergy) and Jewish professors to train rabbis. Soon they will train Hindus and Buddhists.**
Huh? Shaking my head here.
This seminary has decided to be “inclusive” and also train Muslims and Buddhists NOT as Christians but as worshipers of Allah and Buddha. Appalling idolatry I'd say.
For reference.
For reference.
And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach. Isaiah 4:1
There are a number of denominations today that want to be called by the name of Christ, but they don’t wish to acknowledge the authority of the Bible and instead prefer their own doctrines.
can’t argue with that
the proper response for the people is to withhold all funding to the denomination, and, if their local church is scripturally & doctrinally healthy, to continue to fund it. If they wish to give at any higher level it should go directly to those causes; I’m not even sure I’d send them through denominational channels.
ping
Because if it is true that Christ has paid the price for their sins, then why not? They are merely approaching God from a different angle, but their sins have been forgiven and they're just as justified as one who believes in Jesus Christ alone as their Lord, King and Savior.
True. I see your logic. Albeit, the conservatives in those mainline denominations would say that you leave out the crucial steps of repentance and faith in Jesus.
I, however, have come to think as you do.....that God opens the heart to faith. Logically, no other way to account for it.
I am looking for another denomination that will fully accept my ordination, be in the historic Christian tradition, not be beset by even a hint of these problems, and believe in salvation by grace through faith. I'm open to everything from A to Z, from Evangelical Congregational to Free Methodist to Orthodox.
I am afraid that you are going to have some trouble with that last condition!
Gave up on the UMC back in 1985 after the Walker Railey scandal ... by their fruit you shall know them.
You know, you could just start up your own Bible church. Calvary Chapel began as a little country church on the edge of town.
someone ordained Chuck Smith....who was it?
I assume he goes back through a line of ordained ones.
One of my problems with the Mormon church is that Joseph Smith pulled his ordination out of a hat.
There is no church that isn’t connected to another...a plant, a sent “ordained” person, something that connects to the historic lineage.
My focus was on the word "these"....meaning the ones mentioned above (plus: gay ordination, appointment, etc.; abortion;)
ping
My wife regularly attends a UMC here in Michigan. I used to attend regularly, but have always been a little put off by some of its doctrines (infant baptism, for one).
having now read what the denomination is doing, I’m glad I hardly ever dropped a dime in the offering plate.
I may have to ask the pastor why the church remains affiliated with such a denomination that holds such views.
I have a friend, a former Methodist minister, now a member of our congregation, who tells me that there are pockets of that church where redemption through Christ is still preached.
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