Is this the point we're at? On a site that promotes itself as being thoroughly conservative, is FR now so obsessed with political correctness and catering to the whining victimhood of those wanting to shove their opinions into every single discussion that a thread like this that could have simply allowed "friendly dialogue" between these two groups must instead be treated this way?
That sounds rather like the same whining to which you're objecting. The only whining I see is coming from your side along the lines of "Protestants can never have a caucus coz the Romanists keep butting in!" Imagine that! Catholics actually wanting to present the truth. What an inconvenient pain! You'd think they'd just let people post their nonsense uncontested, wouldn't you?
Speaking of truth:
1) There never was nor is any Orthodox/Protestant caucus on this thread nor at any other time.
2) The original article was selectively cut and pasted by the poster to exclude a critical passage which made it clear that the Orthodox had already condemned this piece as a fraud and heresy. This is the real issue on this thread and it has unfortunately been lost due to all the bickering about what constitutes a "caucus".
The poster himself has yet to explain why he did so. It's not as if the piece which was omitted was at the end of the article and so could perhaps have been missed. It's right at the very beginning and was obviously edited. Is this the basis for a serious discussion? The gentleman who posted this article on the sourced website thought it important to point out to his readers that this is a very controversial document whose authenticity is contested. And rightly so. That's something of which a reader should be aware.
The poster of this thread, on the other had, decided to edit out that information. That's understandable. I mean how is one to get a "caucus" thread up and running when you tell your prospective "caucus" partners up front that their Church has already ruled that said document is heretical and fraudulent?
Uh........best leave that bit out.
This thread was a total scam from the get go and the poster was called on it.
I think the_conscience has said that the intention of the OP was to start a thread which would demonstrate to his satisfaction that the poor maligned non-Catholics are so brutally treated by the ho' of babylon that they can't have a caucus thread -- or something like that.
t-c, would you tell us again why you started the thread?
LOL
You can strain all the gnats you want but the camel is still in the middle of the room.
What would the prefatory remarks of a Wesley-Arminian have to do with a Sola/Orthodox caucus? I was only interested in Lucaris’ words and the Orthodox response. If I had included the Arminian’s commentary then some gnat-straining Romanist would have broken the caucus claiming we were excluding Arminians. There’s an infinite amount of gnats to strain for Romanists, it seems.
Bears repeating.
And 273 posts later, the caucus designation has been removed, it's been hashed out back and forth, (but not necessarily yet to everyone's satisfaction); allegations made and refuted, and the religion moderator has been thoroughly pinged. Another caucus thread subject by the original poster has crashed and burned, and then all will move on to the next thread of the moment. Just another day in the religion forum.