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To: metmom; D-fendr; wagglebee; Judith Anne
Getting back to the subject, Protestants go to church on Sundays out of a desire to and to worship in fellowship with other believers. We go freely, not out of compulsion laid on us by the church we attend due to threats of mortal sin and hellfire and brimstone.

Yes, we understand that your religion is of your own making and your god is what you create. We get it and while there are many ex Catholics who succumb to the urge to create their own god, there are that many more who accept and worship God. We are Moses, spiritually attached to God, and the children of the Reformation are Aaron, making the golden calf to satisfy their own whims and immediate desires. We get that. And we appreciate that you have illuminated the distinction.

13,369 posted on 10/20/2010 7:28:27 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: MarkBsnr; D-fendr; Judith Anne; Cronos; kosta50
Here is something to consider:

Many of the anti-Catholics on here CLAIM adherence to beliefs as confessed in the Apostles' and Nicene Creeds, e.g. the profess to believe in the Holy Trinity and the Divinity of Jesus Christ. Now, the Church has long acknowledged that a great many Protestants are in agreement with the Church on these points.

However, there are those on these threads who openly deny the Holy Trinity and the eternal Divinity of Christ. Why is it that the anti-Catholics ignore the heresy of other anti-Catholics? Do they simply view the non-Trinitarian anti-Catholics as useful idiots? Are they concerned at all about the salvation of the the non-Trinitarian anti-Catholics or do they simply want all of anti-Catholic support they can get?

The more I see of these threads, the more I become convinced that many of the anti-Catholic participants ARE NOT CHRISTIANS at all in spite of their protestations to the contrary. Their "religion" is anti-Catholicism and to that end they will embrace anyone else who hates the Church as much as they do.

13,377 posted on 10/20/2010 7:43:30 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: MarkBsnr; 1000 silverlings; RnMomof7; Quix; smvoice; bkaycee; wmfights; count-your-change; ...

No, we don’t worship whatever God we create and we don’t make up a religion. Since we recognize the integrity and veracity of Scripture, we worship the God of Scripture, as presented in Scripture.

Do you not understand that Christianity is not about religion but a relationship? It’s not about being enslaved to a laundry list of do’s and don’t’s trying to earn God’s favor and approval and forgivenness, hoping against hope that in the end we’ll have been found not wanting. It’s about being forgiven in Christ through the new birth, being born again, as Jesus said we must be.

God’s forgiveness makes us children of God, period. Will we sin? Yes. He knows that. Does that condemn us to hell for sinning as the Catholic church teaches? No. We’re His children. We don’t become not His children just because we didn’t happen to ask forgiveness for something we forgot we did or didn’t have time to ask for before we die.

The Catholic religion keeps people constantly on edge. You never know whether you make it or not until it’s too late to do anything about it. It’s enslaving and that’s NOT what Christ came to do. He came to set us free.

The bondage which the Catholic church puts on people is due to their inaccurate portrayal of God as a intolerant, unforgiving taskmaster who is ready to zap someone for the least little transgression, not that of a loving Father who remembers that we are dust and has compassion for those who fear Him.

If the people are not kept in bondage by an inaccurate portrayal of God, then there’s no way to control them.

We answer to God alone. We go to the Father in prayer as directed by Jesus. We don’t forsake the assembling of ourselves together but do not do it out of obligation or compulsion in fear but gratitude and thanksgiving in love for what He has done for us.


13,394 posted on 10/20/2010 8:10:21 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MarkBsnr; metmom; D-fendr; wagglebee; Judith Anne
Mark to mom: We are Moses, spiritually attached to God, and the children of the Reformation are Aaron, making the golden calf to satisfy their own whims and immediate desires. We get that. And we appreciate that you have illuminated the distinction.

Wow, I never heard it said this way, but it rings correct.

13,428 posted on 10/20/2010 8:55:39 AM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: MarkBsnr; metmom
Metmom= Getting back to the subject, Protestants go to church on Sundays out of a desire to and to worship in fellowship with other believers. We go freely, not out of compulsion laid on us by the church we attend due to threats of mortal sin and hellfire and brimstone

.Mark =Yes, we understand that your religion is of your own making and your god is what you create. We get it and while there are many ex Catholics who succumb to the urge to create their own god, there are that many more who accept and worship God. We are Moses, spiritually attached to God, and the children of the Reformation are Aaron, making the golden calf to satisfy their own whims and immediate desires. We get that. And we appreciate that you have illuminated the distinction.

Mark why do you go to church on Sundays ?

13,515 posted on 10/20/2010 11:28:02 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (Some call me harpy..God calls me His)
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To: MarkBsnr; metmom
We are Moses, spiritually attached to God,

Indeed catholics are attached to the law ..and will therefore be judged by it... No one could keep that law perfectly but Christ, so when the day of judgement come all seeking to be saved by the law will be dam*d by it..

Jhn 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, [but] grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Mark salvation does not come through Moses and the law..but by the grace of God ...

13,528 posted on 10/20/2010 11:49:49 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (Some call me harpy..God calls me His)
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