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Flawed Pew Poll on Religious Knowledge Falsely Flatters Atheists
American Thinker ^ | 10/03/2010 | Tom Trinko

Posted on 10/03/2010 9:00:38 AM PDT by WebFocus

Recently the Pew Research Foundation took a poll on religious "knowledge".  The media is spinning the results of this poll to say that atheists are more knowledgeable about religion than are those who profess to be religious.

Before showing why the results of the poll don't support that conclusion let's look at what the scores were.  Atheists/Agnostics correctly answered 20.9 of the 32 questions.  Jews correctly answered 20.5 questions.  For some reason Protestants and Catholics were broken out by race while Atheists/Agnostics weren't.  In any case, Catholics averaged 16 right answers while Protestants averaged 17.6.

The first thing to note is that the difference in the number of questions answered correctly is very small.  Out of 32 questions covering many of the world's faiths, the difference between the Atheists and the Christians is roughly 10-13%.  Not really that earth shattering a difference.

The real problem arises from the questions themselves. It turns out that the survey actually contained roughly 65 questions including ones about phone usage.  If we ignore all of the non-religious ones, it's pretty obvious that the Pew Foundation was really conducting a survey on religious history, not what people know about religion.  Religious history is names, labels, and dates while true religious knowledge is what people believe God teaches.  While there were a few questions about religious beliefs, including one about the Catholic doctrine on Communion, most of the questions were of the names/labels variety, such as what religion was Joseph Smith?

An additional problem with the questions is that they were distributed across faiths running from the ancient Greeks to Muslims.  Religious people tend to drill down in their own religion rather than spend time studying other faiths that they believe to be suboptimal. Atheists and agnostics on the other hand are much more likely to have a diverse, yet generally superficial, knowledge of multiple religions for two reasons.  First, atheists/agnostics may have explored different religions in order to find one they felt comfortable with and/or secondly they may have investigated various religions in order to refute them.

The simple fact is that if you truly believe yours is the true faith -- and you're not an academic or an apologist --  spending time learning about other faiths is not a high priority. While there's nothing wrong with knowing about many faiths, it's far from clear that an atheist who happens to know that Zeus was the head of the Greek gods really has more religious knowledge than a Protestant who can quote hundreds of Bible verses, a Catholic who can explain the Biblical basis for Catholic practices, or a Muslim who has memorized the Koran.

Essentially the poll implicitly declares horizontal knowledge of a variety of religions is more important than detailed vertical knowledge of a single faith.  That's clearly a very dubious assumption.

The poll is also flawed because the very nature of the questions ensures that atheists/agnostics will tend to have higher scores. Atheists will usually do better than religious people on a poll that samples general knowledge because God is not an elitist; He welcomes everyone.  But atheists require a lot of formal education in order to reject anything higher than themselves.  Hence atheists tend to be more educated than religious people -- but contrary to what some atheists claim, this is not a causal relationship because a significant majority of highly educated people are religious. 

Hence in a poll that is testing historical knowledge across a spectrum of religions, an atheist who tends to have more formal education than the average religious person will get a higher score.  The full report on the poll specifically cites the strong correlation between education, irrespective of religious affiliation, and high scores.

A serious methodological flaw with the poll, then, is that apparently Pew did not correct the scores based on the educational distributions of the various populations.  This may explain the discrepancy between minority Christian and white Christian scores. Black and Hispanic Christians scored roughly 3-4 points lower than white Christians -- effectively identical to the gap between white Christians and atheists.  This difference in scores between whites and minorities might be due to the differences in average education level.  If that's the case then there's reason to believe that if Pew had removed the impact of educational level, atheists would not have scored higher than anyone else.  Until Pew resolves this issue it will be impossible to conclude anything about a correlation of religious commitment and religious knowledge.

This poll measures how much knowledge Americans have of religious history not what they know about their own beliefs. That's valuable information because it impacts how people interact with government and the culture.  However it is not a measure of what people know about their faith. 

Why are the media spinning the results of this poll to indicate that atheists/agnostics know more about religion than religious people? Liberals tend to oppose religion because religion requires God not Government to rule all. Faith puts a limit on governmental powers.  Liberals dislike such limitations.

In additions, liberals' general distaste for the simple faith of most Americans explains why the MSM is gleeful that atheists supposedly know more about religion than do religious people, building on the meme that intelligent people don't believe in God. The liberals are spinning this poll in a manner that will support their own personal beliefs on religion.

In the end, knowing how to worship and serve God is what matters in religion, not remembering names and dates or knowing what the latest Supreme Court ruling is.

Perhaps in the future Pew will conduct a poll that actually addresses what people know about God's will for them.  In the meantime, however, we can turn to other studies that follow the money to see which people really understand God's will.  Studies have shown that religious people give more to charity, in both time and money, than atheists/agnostics.  That excess of charity by the religious is a strong indication that they do understand their faith well.



TOPICS: Current Events; Religion & Culture; Skeptics/Seekers; Theology
KEYWORDS: atheist; knowledge; poll; religion

1 posted on 10/03/2010 9:00:45 AM PDT by WebFocus
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To: WebFocus

Pew = piu.


2 posted on 10/03/2010 9:48:58 AM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: WebFocus

I actually posted the original news of the poll here in this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2597595/posts


3 posted on 10/03/2010 10:18:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: WebFocus
Instead of coming up with excuses and playing a game of denial why not use the results (whatever faults there may be ) as a wake up call to the honest realization that Adult Christian Education in most of our Catholic parishes is almost nonexistent and many sermons are a series of cute stories instead of instruction.
4 posted on 10/03/2010 10:19:17 AM PDT by VidMihi ("In fide, unitas; in dubiis, libertas; in omnibus, caritas.")
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To: WebFocus
Identifying oneself as a Christian and being a practicing one is another thing.

I just wonder how many of those who were polled attend Church once a week.

If the questions were anything like the ones Fr.Jonathan asked today on Fox and FRiends, a child in 6th grade Sunday School should be able to answer them.

5 posted on 10/03/2010 10:24:23 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: VidMihi; WebFocus
A point for each side:

First, it's true that many believers are pathetically ignorant. This is a genuine cause for shame and concern, since we are called to love God "with our whole mind," which I take to mean with our whole mental capacity. It can't be doubted that most of us took 10th grade geometry much more seriously than the truths of the Faith, and I'd be willing to bet that many people stick at about that point for the rest of their lives.

But second, mile-wide-inch-deep learning such as Comparative Religions 101 at the State University doesn't count for much: and that's what was surveyed in this little quiz. Think, which of these people --- contemporaries of almost 100 years ago --- know more "about religions": Lucia Santos (Link) or Vladimir Lenin?

6 posted on 10/03/2010 12:05:32 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Mystery isn't something that is gradually evaporating: it grows along with knowledge." Fl O'Connor)
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To: VidMihi

True, and telling, as is a lack of hunger for such.


7 posted on 10/03/2010 12:43:33 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( ("Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19))
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To: WebFocus

Atheists tend to have more education, but which does not equate to wisdom and morality. One poll claims that those who are “very liberal” have an average of about 12 IQ points over those who are “very conservative.” And educational staff are overwhelmingly liberal, training up youth in a way they should not go. “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, “ (Romans 1:22)


8 posted on 10/03/2010 12:49:49 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( ("Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out," Acts 3:19))
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To: WebFocus

I always found the irreligious to be so uninformed, their opinions about those do who know God is irrelevant.

That said, it occurred to me that this was a bit like the Pharisees asking Jesus about taxes. They had hoped to catch him in telling people not to pay, which would have been very popular, but of course, Jesus taught the people a real lesson in what is more important.

The Pharisees didn’t have an honest reason for asking the question in the first place, very much to my mind this poll is the same.


9 posted on 10/03/2010 12:58:17 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: VidMihi

Are you suggesting that Catholic parishes should spend time teaching religious education students (children or adults) about Greek mythology, the beliefs of Hindus and Moslems, or the history of non-Catholic religious groups in the United States? I believe this kind of instruction belongs in schools, which is where I learned enough to answer every question from the Pew survey that has reached FR.

And what would be the point? To impress atheists with our ability to get $100 Jeopardy questions right?


10 posted on 10/03/2010 1:12:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Beware of the owrk!)
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To: Tax-chick
NO, How about a little Bible Study, Catholic Dogma (like the Eucharist ), a little Church History, what it means to be a member of a Faith Community, Ecclesiology, some ideas about the ten commandments, - stuff like that.
11 posted on 10/03/2010 3:16:59 PM PDT by VidMihi ("In fide, unitas; in dubiis, libertas; in omnibus, caritas.")
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To: VidMihi; P-Marlowe; wagglebee

There is no denial. I read the original thread here on Free Republic and concluded almost immediately the same things in this article. It isn’t rocket science.

Knowledge of your religion is not the same as knowledge about religions.

How hard is that to understand?

No denial whatsoever.


12 posted on 10/03/2010 4:06:38 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: WebFocus
Take the quiz here
13 posted on 10/03/2010 8:49:45 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: WebFocus

I do not know if the Pew survey is correct or not. I will leave that matter to people that know more about testing and statistics than I; however, I am not surprised. How many Christian denominations ever teach anything about church history? It seems that the vast majority of Christians today are only concerned about themselves and their own little world. Church history is linked with religion, and we are told that religion is bad but spirituality is good. Horton describes American Christianity as moralistic, therapeutic Deism, and he may be correct. Still, the fact that less than half of those tested did not know who Martin Luther is not only a failure of Christian education but also of public education.


14 posted on 10/03/2010 10:16:13 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: WebFocus

Having seen and taken the poll I agree it was weighted to the intellectual /political knowledge of the one questioned.. I did well because I am an internet junkie.. and a freeper ...


15 posted on 10/04/2010 8:26:34 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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