The Spirit World, Our Next Home

Liahona Magazine ^ | December, 1977 | Dale C. Mouritsen

[MarkBsnr]

I like the little green aprons used in Temple rituals. Do Catholics have those little green aprons, too?

Sadly, no. Our aprons tend to be much larger and contain cartoons of bikini clad women, and phrases like "Bring me another beer", and "Make mine a Guinness".

[aMorePerfectUnion]

I believe you mistook Paragon Non-Defender as a Mormon who could have an honest discussion. Apparently, all he has is a cobbled together set of official Mormon links that are one-sided and fictional. He does like them though. You will learn that after all the bluster and wild Mormon claims, all they have is feelings- and of course the links..

Best
Ampu

[restornu]

There are many being afflicted with Atherosclerosis

[MHGinTN]

Sadly, hardening of the heart is far more devastating, Resty, especially for those captured in a cult like Mormonism. There are analogous aspects:
---- atherosclerosis evidences build up of plak inside the arteries, and Mormonism has build up of heresies in the mind;
---- atherosclerosis reduces blood flow to vital organs, including the brain, and Mormonism reduces the flow of truth, suffocating the soul by crowding out truth in favor of the fantasies of Joseph Smith and other leadership in Mormonism ... need I go on for your benefit?

[Diamond]

As someone on the outside looking in, as it were, I feel that way about all religions.

Are you just talking about your feelings or are you referring to some sort of rational scheme of knowledge? If the latter, then how in the world could your finite and subjective brain chemistry possibly serve as the criterion for competently assessing everything about anything, as in, all religions?

[restornu]

It is NOT the LDS who has harden their hearts it is evident by all the atherosclerosis day after day spewing hate towards the LDS...

As a man thinketh so he is and daily those who malign another only in the end hurts themselves and that is a fact.

I believe that is the wisdom in the Lord counsel

Roman 12

19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

Mormon 8

19 For behold, the same that judgeth rashly shall be judged rashly again; for according to his works shall his wages be; therefore, he that smiteth shall be smitten again, of the Lord.

20 Behold what the scripture says—man shall not smite, neither shall he judge; for judgment is mine, saith the Lord, and vengeance is mine also, and I will repay.

21 And he that shall breathe out wrath and strifes against the work of the Lord, and against the covenant people of the Lord who are the house of Israel, and shall say: We will destroy the work of the Lord, and the Lord will not remember his covenant which he hath made unto the house of Israel—the same is in danger to be hewn down and cast into the fire;

22 For the eternal purposes of the Lord shall roll on, until all his promises shall be fulfilled.

23 Search the prophecies of Isaiah. Behold, I cannot write them. Yea, behold I say unto you, that those saints who have gone before me, who have possessed this land, shall cry, yea, even from the dust will they cry unto the Lord; and as the Lord liveth he will remember the covenant which he hath made with them.

[Paragon Defender]

There are many being afflicted with Atherosclerosis

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haha took me a minute but I get you. Yes indeed. And they are a plenty here. Very sad. But it’s a sign of the times I suppose.

[Colofornian]

I believe you mistook Paragon Non-Defender as a Mormon who could have an honest discussion. Apparently, all he has is a cobbled together set of official Mormon links that are one-sided and fictional. He does like them though. You will learn that after all the bluster and wild Mormon claims, all they have is feelings- and of course the links..

Paragon Non-Defender

Ouch! That body waxing has got to sting a bit!

AMPU...it appears you've been around Mormons enough to have 'em pegged!

[Osage Orange]

Of course I meant personally....Which you don't....very often.

So riddle me this.....where is from mormon lore the city Moron located?

[Osage Orange]

You need to put down the blinders and hateful propaganda and consider the possibility that you are wrong.

Give me 5 or 6 examples of this "hateful propaganda"

And I have examined mormonism..and my own Christianity...and I'm not wrong.

Look up the definition of a cult...and then with your eyes open...look at mormonism.

[restornu]

During the time of the Tower of Babel

Is there archaeological evidence of the Tower of Babel?
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a021.html

Ether 11: 14-16, 18
14 And it came to pass that Ethem did execute judgment in wickedness all his days; and he begat Moron. And it came to pass that Moron did reign in his stead; and Moron did that which was wicked before the Lord.
15 And it came to pass that there arose a rebellion among the people, because of that secret combination which was built up to get power and gain; and there arose a mighty man among them in iniquity, and gave battle unto Moron, in which he did overthrow the half of the kingdom; and he did maintain the half of the kingdom for many years.
16 And it came to pass that Moron did overthrow him, and did obtain the kingdom again.
• • •
18 And it came to pass that he did overthrow Moron and obtain the kingdom; wherefore, Moron dwelt in captivity all the remainder of his days; and he begat Coriantor.
Ether 7: 5-6, 17
5 And when he had gathered together an army he came up unto the land of Moron where the king dwelt, and took him captive, which brought to pass the saying of the brother of Jared that they would be brought into captivity.
6 Now the land of Moron, where the king dwelt, was near the land which is called Desolation by the Nephites.
• • •
17 And it came to pass that he gave battle again unto Shule, the king; and he took Shule, the king, and carried him away captive into Moron.
Ether 1: 7-8
7 Coriantor was the son of Moron.
8 And Moron was the son of Ethem.
Ether 14: 6, 11
6 And he came forth to the land of Moron, and placed himself upon the throne of Coriantumr.
• • •
11 And it came to pass that in the first year of Lib, Coriantumr came up unto the land of Moron, and gave battle unto Lib.

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Ether 1

5 But behold, I give not the full account, but a part of the account I give, from the tower down until they were destroyed.
6 And on this wise do I give the account. He that wrote this record was Ether, and he was a descendant of Coriantor.
7 Coriantor was the son of Moron.
8 And Moron was the son of Ethem.
9 And Ethem was the son of Ahah.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/ether/1

[Osage Orange]

Funny thing is I mean that as well. And to me you really ARE my brother/sister.

And you are what....calling me a liar?

[Paragon Defender]

Hey there restornu.

As you can see the “gang” is all over me. I let myself get drawn into their cesspool again. lol I just have a hard time resisting sometimes when I see the garbage.

Shoulda known better. Pointless and fruitless. You can lead a horse to water as they say.

[Osage Orange]

One last thing....and mormon's don't seem to get it.

You on one hand want to be called Christians...but then on the other hand you bash all Christian Churches with your statements. Kinda EXACTLY what Joseph Smith did...way back when.

Tell me....PD...are there groups of folks called "Ex-Christian's for Christ"?

That said, why is there a group called "Ex-mormon's for Jesus"?

www.exmormonsforjesus.org/

Here's some other reading you can do....about ex-mormon's. There is a way out for you....!!

www.4mormon.org/

www.godandscience.org/cults/mormtest.html

Here's something for you to include with your "Dear Reader's" posts....http://www.lifeafter.org/reasons.asp

I'm sure you want "Dear Reader's" to have ALL the information available...for them to make informative choices!!

[Osage Orange]

Who typed that for you???

[Osage Orange]

So you whine, smart mouth and then beg off again.....

At least you are consistent.

[greyfoxx39]

14 And it came to pass that Ethem did execute judgment in wickedness all his days; and he begat Moron. And it came to pass that Moron did reign in his stead; and Moron did that which was wicked before the Lord.

LOL...I see you are posting verses about "moron" from the Joseph Smith Book of Fiction.

I like THIS translation better.

1 Nephi 1

From LOLCat Bible Translation Project

TEH BUK UV MEOWMON

Udder Stori uv Happy Cat

TEH FURST BOOK OV NEFI, HIS RAIN AN MINSTREE

Teh stori ov Lehi an wife Sariah an him 4 kittehs, calld, (frum teh oldst) Laman (boos), Lemuel (hiss), Sam, an Nefi (hey, datz meh!). Happy Cat shout out 2 Lehi 2 scatz out ov Jeruzelem! ONO! GOWAY! GIT! Cuz Lehi tellz teh fyoochr 2 the kittehs boutz ther invisible error an dey go all creyzey an try keel him. Srsly! Lehi guy walkin tree daze n desert wit family. Nefi taek brudders bak 2 Jeruzelem 2 getz jewcats book (dey rly no wanna goez). No happy tiem. Brudders goed bak agin 2 getz Ishmael guy an hiz rly sooper hot dawters 2 marrie (dem brudders rly happy 2 goed bak dis tiem, gofig!). Big weddin partee, ya no!. All da kittehs go wandrin n teh desert. Sad tiemz. Cum 2 beeg waterz. Nefi's brudders sey "WTF!". Nefi pwnd dem an maek kool boat. Dem calld place Boutiful. Everbuddy goed on boat ovr beeg waterz 2 beeg plais wif lotz and lotz of cheezbrgrs. N udder stuffs happenz butz ai m tyard. Iz hard sratchin all dis on metal plaetz, ya no! Anywayz, ai Nefi scratchd dis, k?

1 Ai Nefi wuz burfed 2 awsum pawrentz. Dey teached meh wat dey noed. Ai seed sad stuffs, butz Happy Cat lieks meh, ya rly, ai iz so badass, an ai noed kool Ceiling Cat secritz, so ai scratchd stuffs.2 Ya rly, ai scratchd stuffs in dadcat lolspeak, itz r00t pwd uv jewcats an teh lolspeak uv gypshuns.3 Record iz trooful; Ai rited it and Ai kno from me.

1 Nephi 2

Lehi taeks kittehs 2 desert neer teh red waterz -

1 Oh hei!, So Ceiling Cat sez 2 Lehi guy... "take ur brudders n stuffs n go bak 2 da uver jewcatz."

ly, ai scratchd stuffs in dadcat lolspeak, itz r00t pwd uv jewcats an teh lolspeak uv gypshuns.3 Record iz trooful; Ai rited it and Ai kno from me.

 

1 Nephi 3

'N' check it out, dis Laban guy can has a list of all da lolcats in ma famlee frum waaaiiii bak n deys wrote on sum medal plate sumwares.

Book Uv Meowmon is as authentic as the Book of Mormon, and much funnier.

[Godzilla]

So riddle me this.....where is from mormon lore the city Moron located?

Oh now you've done it . . .

[Religion Moderator]

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

[Osage Orange]

It is NOT the LDS who has harden their hearts it is evident by all the atherosclerosis day after day spewing hate towards the LDS...

Give 5 examples of "spewing hate"...please.