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To: kosta50; metmom; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; caww
My criteria are things humans can see and detect. Everything else is speculation. There is no vanity in what I say. I don't offer fantastic tales and denigrate others for not believing them. On the other hand, you call real things "nothingness" and fantastic things real. And all this because you refuse to answer a simple question about Paul.

On the contrary, nobody has refused to answer your questions about Paul. That you have rejected our answers does not mean we have avoided answering them.

You state your "criteria" for believing are things people can see and detect yet you leave out those things that people everywhere and at all times have accepted. We accept certain truths even when we can not see nor detect them (with our own senses). A good example is the presence of a "soul or spirit". It is something which no medical tests have ever or could ever "detect", yet no sane person would aver that this "something" isn't real.

I always marvel at people who claim they do not have faith because, in reality, we ALL exert it every day of our lives

5,218 posted on 12/12/2010 2:40:59 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
That you have rejected our answers does not mean we have avoided answering them.

They do more than reject them... Never have seen such comments coming out of so called Christians as I have seen from the Catholics here. It would be one thing if they stayed on topic...but as soon as the truth is revealed they retaliate with such animosity and nastiness the likes of which I have not seen or experienced off line. It would make one wonder, really, if they are under the influence of a chemical or alcoholic nature as this is the same way they respond....I just cannot find any other explanation for it.

5,222 posted on 12/12/2010 4:02:04 PM PST by caww
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To: boatbums; metmom; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; Belteshazzar; bkaycee; blue-duncan; caww
On the contrary, nobody has refused to answer your questions about Paul. That you have rejected our answers does not mean we have avoided answering them.

Instead of answering some went on a verbal shooting spree. If I rejected your answer it is because it wasn't an acceptable answer.

You state your "criteria" for believing are things people can see and detect yet you leave out those things that people everywhere and at all times have accepted

Like what? Appealing to numbers or antiquity, or what have you is no proof that something exists. More than one billion Muslims believe the Koran is true, and have since the 7th century. And all the Jews in the world deny the New Testament base don their faith which is much older than Christianity. What does that prove? 

It is something which no medical tests have ever or could ever "detect", yet no sane person would aver that this "something" isn't real.

Really? So, then you are saying only "insane" people will doubt that this imaginary "something" is real?

5,257 posted on 12/13/2010 4:45:51 AM PST by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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