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To: count-your-change
"Perhaps to the degree that such can be charged to every scholar and translator

And Roman scholars and translators stand agenda free and pure in motive? Please already!"

As you know, I am not a Roman partisan nor am I a Roman Catholic. Whatever their bias may be, they agree with the rest of The Church on the Real Presence.

"All Christians? You know this and can speak for “all Christians”?"

As a matter of historical fact, all Christians believed in the Real Presence until Zwingli's pathetic, limited god couldn't be in two places at once. I know this as well as any other historical fact, cyc.

"One, it is the English translations that posters are discussing and Two, that the degree of literalness in English that we have still allows us to say that taking the word “is” literally sans context would completely change the meaning and intent of the speaker."

What astonishing Anglophone chauvinism! Because you base your faith on lousy, agenda driven English translations of Greek, the bible means what English speaking protestants say it means, even if that is in contradiction to what the original Greek says because English allows for variants that Greek doesn't?

"I just knew it was all my fault!"

Indeed, it is you Westerners, people who apparently think that using English gives them the right to twist the Scriptures, who, to further your rebellion against your Holy Mother Church, foisted false translations of the bible on otherwise unsuspecting people. The result, as I noted on another thread, is the bitter weed of heresy which has all but destroyed Western society.

"“Most Christians on earth accept the notion of infallibility residing in the person of the Pope.”"

Indeed, since most Christians are Roman Catholics...by a margin figured in the hundreds of millions.

6,244 posted on 12/29/2010 6:16:27 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis

Oh those wicked, WICKED Westerners!!! If only all of them could be more Greek!!!

G’nite, K. No eye gouging or hand chopping while I’m gone!


6,251 posted on 12/29/2010 8:45:20 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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